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Southwest Airlines Pilots Association Wants Details On Covid Vaccine Mandate

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Casey Murray, president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA), joined CNBC's 'Squawk Box' on Tuesday to talk about the thousands of canceled Southwest flights this week that the company and union agree has nothing to do with a lawsuit objecting to the way the airline is implementing federal vaccine recommendations.

"All we are trying to do is get them to sit down and talk to us. We haven't been seen," Murray said.

"Pilots have to maintain a medical certificate as well as their pilots' certificate," he explained. "So we want to sit down and address how that will be affected, how our long-term disability, how our license insurance is going to cover it."


"We have to address natural immunities, antibodies, alternative means of compliance," he added. "There are many things to discuss."

He concluded: "We have to sit down and have some agreements in place so our pilots are comfortable with their career decision and their medicals, moving forward."

Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly also told CNBC on Tuesday that he has "never been in favor of corporations imposing that kind of a mandate" but will follow President Biden's order over the Texas governor's order. Southwest is based in Texas.

CNBC HOST: Hey, Casey. I know that you and the airline have said that this is not related to protesting vaccine mandates, but the union did sue effectively to block such a mandate.

Can we discuss that for a moment because I think there is a question about what the role of pilots should be, as you know, pilots were a beneficiary during the pandemic of taxpayer bailout money. The airline and pilots and flight attendants all sought that money at the time. Even when they weren't flying.

The argument at the time is that was going to "help society." We were trying to "help society" and that money was needed to get to those people. What were the pilots to, if not take the vaccine, do to quote "help society" at this point?

CASEY MURRAY, SWAPA: So, I think the two are mutually exclusive.

The vaccine mandate, and where we are with the lawsuit, is really just to get the company to sit down and tuque to us and discuss some of our issues that our peers have done. And we see where their vaccination rates are.

Remember, all we are trying to do is get them to sit down and talk to us. We haven't been seen. We have been pushing them for ten months to do that.

Pilots have to maintain a medical certificate as well as their pilots' certificate.

So we want to sit down and address how that will be affected, how our long-term disability, how our license insurance is going to cover.

We have to address natural immunities, antibodies, alternative means of compliance.

There are many things to discuss.

Now, real quickly, going back to saying they are mutually exclusive, the job action idea, now we're at Tuesday looking back at what happened this weekend, our pilot was right in line with hat we saw this summer during the same kinds of meltdowns. We see our pilots picking up, almost at an all-time high, they are there supporting.

They're different. We're just trying to get the company to sit down with us and discuss these issues to make our pilots feel at ease and to make a decision to go out there and get vaccinated or not.

CNBC HOST: Are you encouraging your pilots to get vaccinated?

CASEY MURRAY: Well, we are. But we have to sit down and have some agreements in place so our pilots are comfortable with their career decision and their medicals, moving forward.


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