"And you have the proof that would show the actual change of votes?" he asked.
"Yes, absolutely, 100 percent," Lindell replied.
In a voice-over, Griffin says he has reviewed the evidence: "It is, of course, complete nonsense."
"It doesn't show any specific actions of any kind, election-related or not," he tells Lindell.
"Well then, you didn't hire a cyber expert," the pillow magnate replied.
Lindell is hosting a symposium to find the truth next week: