"I'm tired of old white male leadership in government," Charlemagne tha God said in an interview Tuesday night with CNN host Don Lemon.
"Can you give me your take on black voters and what they want out of this election, Charlamagne?" Lemon asked.
"What they want out of this election, I think that we just want to be heard. You know, I think that, you know, when you look at, you know Joe Biden and his lift every voice plan, you know, some of the most important things in it for me, when he speaks on, you know, advancing the economic mobility of black people, and closing the racial income gaps."
"I just think you know we want to be heard and not really think that we're looking for some type of economic mobility."
Charlamagne made it clear that is voting for Biden mainly due to Harris, calling her the person to "lead us in the future."
"I believe Kamala is the political change," he said. "I believe she is exactly the leader this country needs to lead us in the future. If she's not been, I'll just be wrong, because I am going to be honest with you, Don, I am just so tired of like old white male leadership in politics."
"I can't speak for all black Americans," Charlamagne tha God said. "Black Americans are not monolithic. I am only speaking for me. To me, I'm just sick of that. I'm tired of old white male leadership in government. Trump wants to make America great again. Biden wants to build back better."
LEMON: Just two weeks into Election Day and with so much on the line, black voters are speaking out loud and clear, it's all about making sure no vote is taken for granted. President Trump's closing argument for black voters, well, it's the same as it ever was.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have done more for the black community than any president with the exception of Abraham Lincoln. It's true, it's true.
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LEMON: Charlamagne Tha God joins me now. Charlamagne, so good to see you, thanks for doing this, all right?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD, RADIO PRESENTER: Don, thank you for having me, my brother. How are you?
LEMON: I'm doing well. I want to get your take on how you're doing. That's why I have you here. Black voters -- I got to say this are so much deeper than most candidates give us credit for. Deeper than that ridiculous statement like I've done more for black voters since Abraham Lincoln. Can you give me your take on black voters and what they want out of this election, Charlamagne?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: What they want out of this election, I think that we just want to be heard. You know, I think that, you know, when you look at, you know Joe Biden and his lift every voice plan, you know, some of the most important things in it for me, when he speaks on, you know, advancing the economic mobility of black people, and closing the racial income gaps.
But you know, that's really all lip service, simply because we're in dream selling season. On November 3rd we are going to find out whose dream Americans been buying into. Everything -- if everything that Joe Biden's plan for black people goes through, it will absolutely make legitimate changes and I think the change that we want, but what it really go down to is Joe Biden getting him in the White House.
And you know, Democrats getting control of the House and the Senate because of -- if that doesn't happen, nothing's going to happen. And I answer your question, I just think you know we want to be heard and not really think that we're looking for some type of economic mobility.
LEMON: So, listen, OK. Fair point, I think you're right about all of
that. Listen, even if I didn't, it's still your opinion and you're entitled to it. But this is what -- considering the support that Joe Biden has from black people, I think it would be incumbent on black people to hold his feet to the fire.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Absolutely.
LEMON: To take into account if he does become president. You have talked about this before, about black voters shouldn't be afraid to ask for something in return for their vote. Si one of those things that you and Diddy talk about recently and I want you to listen to this.
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SEAN COMBS, AMERICAN RAPPER: Between COVID hitting us and because we weren't organized for this election, we have no choice now to get Trump out of there.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD, AMERICAN RADIO PRESENTER: Mm-hmm.
COMBS: It's a shame and it's our responsibility that we did not get anything out of putting Biden in the place he is in --
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Mm-hmm.
COMBS: -- after the primaries.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Senator Harris and the V.P., you know, these are some of the things we were asking for. Black and gender could be way stronger, way stronger. He said he'll put a black woman on the Supreme Court. We don't even know if that is gonna happen now.
COMBS: Hey, when you look at it, we don't have choice. You know what I'm saying? You can say what you want about Biden. I can't say I love the pick either. But hey, we've got to get him in office --
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Mm-hmm.
COMBS: -- and then we got to hold him accountable.
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LEMON: All right. So, listen, a lot of black people feel that they use their power to support Democrats, nothing ever happens. You were just talking about that. Listen, I love the conversation that you were having with Diddy and I love what Diddy is doing right now when --
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Me, too.
LEMON: -- politically. But go on.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Yeah. I think what Diddy is doing is (INAUDIBLE) and it's very important to acknowledge that our black party was launched by Mayor Candace Hollingsworth of Hyattsville, Maryland and former vice mayor of Charlottesville, Dr. Wes Bellamy.
Diddy is coming on board with the latest money and resources and his influences. To me, that is the kind of unity and cooperation we need if we are going to have celebrities involved in politics.
Black people, we do need our own political party. We should be voting in blocks and voting for our interest nationally locally. We shouldn't be so predictable with our vote, like the two largest voting groups in the Democratic Party of black women and black men.
I don't think that, you know, overwhelming support for Democrats or Republicans is moving the needle in the bottom direction for the black communities.
So, I love the idea of our black party. I want you to note that Diddy said the main interest for our black party this year is to get that fascist out of the White House.
LEMON: Yeah. Again, you know, just not as much of the conversation as you've had with Diddy, but he's real, he knows what he's talking about, he has done his homework, so I am really happy about that. But listen, you said the --
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Even if he doesn't know -- even if he doesn't know what he's talking about, he is standing next to people who know what --
LEMON: Who know what they are talking about. Amen, brother.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Yes.
LEMON: Thank you. So, having said that, you said that black women and black men, two biggest voting blocks, you've seen, you know, the polls that have been done on black men, prominent black men who are coming out, saying, oh, well, maybe you should vote for Trump, maybe I'm looking towards Trump, or some just saying, you know, I need to work with both parties with -- you know what I'm talking about.
What do you say to that? I do want to ask you about it.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I don't -- I don't -- I don't like that narrative, you know, because if Trump wins, they're not about to turn this into a black man and the reason Trump is in office thing. In 2016, black men voted against Trump more than any other group of men. That's a fact.
You actually need to do a show, Don, on white women and asked them why they came out and voted for Trump in 2016, over one of their own, and do they plan to make the same mistake this year? Don't put that on black men.
LEMON: Mm-hmm. Go on. Talk to me more about that. I want to hear.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Well, I think -- to even answer your question more deeply, I think, you know, when it comes to the black people you see who maybe, you know, showing support for Trump, I just think, you know, it's because Trump is actually talking to young black male voters. He is directing ads toward them.
They are a group that never get courted. I mean, black people don't get courted either as a whole. But that old democratic regime speaks to old black men. I think everyone else in the black community and black families, they are supposed to fall I line. They know black women are going to show up regardless.
Like I said, he speaks to older black men, and he thinks the rest of us all speak the same language. So Trump is targeting young black males from marketing. It works.
LEMON: From marketing. OK. Just real quick because I have a couple of more things I want to talk to you, if you can give me a quick answer. Do you think that Kamala Harris on the ticket, do you think Senator Harris -- does that with black men and women?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Oh, absolutely. I mean, when we were pushing for Joe Biden to pick a black woman as his V.P., Senator Harris is who I had mine. I am voting for Kamala Harris. I tell you that in the heartbeat. I am not necessarily voting for Joe Biden. I am voting for Senator Kamala Harris.
LEMON: Well, you got your -- don't you have your vote ballot right there?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I do, actually. I showed you this before we got on.
LEMON: You did show me an envelope, but I don't know what's in there.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Listen, I'm voting for Senator Kamala Harris.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I believe Kamala is the political change. I believe she is exactly the leader this country needs to lead us in the future. If she's not been, I'll just be wrong, because I am going to be honest with you, Don, I am just so tired of like old white male leadership in politics.
I can't speak for all black Americans. Black Americans are monolithic. I am only speaking for me. To me, I'm just sick of that. I'm tired of old white male leadership in government. Trump wants to make America great again. Biden wants to build back better.
As a black man, I don't want to do none of that because we know America has never been great for everyone. We talk about building back better. It is like saying we are trying to return things to normal. But America's normal hasn't work for black people.
LEMON: Mm-hmm. All right. Listen, I got to go. Are you going to mail or you're going to go and take it and drop it?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I think I'm going to take it and drop it. I don't trust the mail. I've never done it through mail. I've always gone in and press the button. And just listening to Donald Trump, you know, I don't want him just throwing my votes away.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: So I think I'm gonna fill it out drop it off.
LEMON: Listen --
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: But I am voting for Senator Kamala Harris.
LEMON: All right. Let me say this. I trust the mail. I am going to go this week and if the lines are too long, I'm going to mail it in. I think people should vote, I think you agree with this, by mail, by in- person, whatever it is, however they can vote, go out and vote.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I agree.
LEMON: Do you agree on that?
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I agree.
LEMON: Thank you, Charlamagne. I appreciate it. Be well.
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Bye, Don.