Bob Woodson, founder and president of the Woodson Center, joins Mark Levin on FNC's "Life, Liberty & Levin," to discuss the 1776 Initiative which was created to refute the claims made by the New York Times' 1619 Project documenting America's history of slavery.
MARK LEVIN: Welcome back, Bob Woodson. You were saying, we don't have to exchange white papers. That's good for the intellectual, but the battle is at the ground level.
They have the Smithsonian Institution now, 1619 effort in "The New York Times." Our public schools, a growing number of them are embracing this. This is a big problem, and you're saying, we compete against this how?
BOB WOODSON: Well, first of all, as I said, the concern is if we were fighting the Second World War executing it, and we were invading Normandy, we would have only Navy and the Air Force, and we'll be bombing the hell out of -- waiting for Hitler to show up and surrender on the beach.
We wouldn't have any Marines or soldiers, nor would we be supporting the insurgents in these occupied countries.
LEVIN: We need ground forces.
WOODSON: We need ground forces. So that's why, with 1776, we assembled not just thinkers and that's important. But we are also activists. People whose lives and actions embody the principles that we said we advocate.
If we want people to embrace these principles and virtues, we must demonstrate that they have the consequences of improving people's lives. They can restore community.
So we brought people like John Ponder from Los Angeles, Tyrone Parker from Washington, and Gary Wyatt from Akron, Ohio; Willie Peterson -- all of these are activists in low income communities, bringing about a gang intervention and making communities safe.
John Ponder is taking 2,000 people who've come out of prison and help them to live stable lives. They have 500 volunteers, 50 of them -- about 40 percent -- are police officers. Police officers actually mentoring ex- offenders and as a consequence, the violent encounters between police and the minority community is dramatically reduced.
So we have models on the ground around the country that shows that these are people who are taking those values, and using them as a means of promoting redemption and transformation of people in communities, and they're restoring communities.
We as conservatives must see them as allies and supply them with funding. Also, scholars should be writing about them.
And so when you're talking about a principle, it would be good to point to an example, in the low-income communities.
What the Woodson Center is trying to establish is the center for the study of resilience, and not just do failure studies.
And so, as you say, the left uses Broadway, movies. So what we're doing at 1776, we're going to have a K through 12 curriculum. We're going to have videos. We're going to have festivals to celebrate 1776.
We also should make grassroots leaders, civic teachers. So if young people cleave to these grassroots leaders, we, at the Woodson Center want to equip these grassroots leaders so that they are teaching young people the values and virtues of our founders, and not just leave it to the academic scholars to do that.
And so it's a comprehensive approach. We should see movies. We want to see more movies. We have an illustrator as a part of us. So we want to -- we just want to have children's books.
Mark, the leading book in the socialist section in Amazon is "Communism for Kids." That's what we're up against. But we've got to match it. That's why what the Woodson Center is doing is we are developing a ground game, but we need support for that.