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Graham: Department Of Justice Has Set Up A "Process" To Verify Giuliani's Ukraine/Biden Claims


The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee issued a warning Sunday on CBS's "Face The Nation that "Russia is playing us all like a fiddle" and he is concerned Rudy Giuliani may be getting "played."

MARGARET BRENNAN: The President's up. He's watching, apparently, because he sent out a tweet this morning about you appearing on this program. He said, "DeFace the nation will tell Lindsey Graham they must start up the Judiciary and not stop." I'm not exactly sure quite what that means, but it sounds like he's giving you marching orders.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I think what he's talking about is oversight of the FISA warrant system that failed. I can promise the President and your viewers that I'm going to call witnesses about--

MARGARET BRENNAN: Foreign surveillance warrants--the Horowitz report.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yeah. The Horowitz report. You know, McCabe, Comey, Rosenstein, Yates. How did you miss it so badly? How could you issue four warrants against an American citizen based on information that was unreliable? But here's what I want to tell the President. I'm not going to be the Republican Christopher Steele. So, Rudy Giuliani last night said he's got the goods on Hunter Biden. I called the attorney general this morning and Richard Burr, the chairman of the Intel Committee, and they told me take very cautiously anything coming out of the Ukraine against anybody. So what I will do is I will get to the bottom of how the FISA warrant system failed and make sure we reform it, doesn't happen again. I think questions about the conflict of interest regarding Hunter Biden in the Ukraine need to be asked. The State Department had warnings and they ignored the conflict of interest. The whistleblower episode needs to be investigated by Richard Burr. But if Rudy Giuliani has any information coming out of the Ukraine, he needs to turn over the Department of Justice because it could be Russian propaganda.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You last time you're on this program, though, in December, you said Giuliani should come to the Judiciary Committee with what he said was a suitcase full of documents he picked up in Ukraine--


MARGARET BRENNAN: --on the Bidens. Are you saying you don't want any part of this anymore?

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: After talking to the attorney general and the intelligence chairman that any documents coming out of the Ukraine against any American, Republican or Democrat, need to be looked at by the intelligence services, who has expertise I don't because Russia is playing us all like a fiddle. And Christopher Steele was played by the Russians that started the Russian investigation against President Trump.


SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: It was all garbage.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you saying Rudy Giuliani--

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: And I don't want to do the same thing.

MARGARET BRENNAN: --Rudy Giuliani is getting played by the Russians?

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I don't know. I am saying that the attorney--

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, it sounds like that's what you're suggesting.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I'm saying that anybody who's got any information coming from the Ukraine needs to turn it over to the intelligence community. As to Senator Schumer wanting Parnas in the audience, if you don't understand--

MARGARET BRENNAN: This is one of Rudy Giuliani's business associates who's been indicted.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Yes, crooked as snake facing indictment. So Schiff gets called by Russian hoaxster. I've got photos of President Trump in a compromised situation. To every American politician, you should be very cautious about receiving information coming out of the Ukraine--


SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: --and other countries that may be backed by Russian misinformation.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Does the President know that? Because he--


MARGARET BRENNAN: --apparently, has continued to--

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, if he's watching the show, here's what I would tell the President.

MARGARET BRENNAN: --believe that Ukraine had a role here.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: I'm going to get to the bottom of the FISA work process because it was an abuse of power of the Department of Justice, the FBI. And we're gonna make sure that Hunter Biden's conflict of interest is explored because it's legitimate. How could Joe Biden really fight corruption when his son sitting on the Burisma board?

MARGARET BRENNAN: Can you clarify? You said you talked to Attorney General Barr this morning. Has the Department of Justice been ordered to investigate the Bidens?

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: No. The Department of Justice is receiving information coming out of the Ukraine from Rudy--


SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: --to see. He told me that they've created a process that Rudy could give information and they would see if it's verified. Rudy Giuliani is a well-known man. He's a crime fighter. He's loyal to the President. He's a good lawyer. But what I'm trying to say-- to the President and anybody else, that the Russians are still up to it. Deterrence is not working. So, let's look at Hunter Biden's conflict. Let's look at Joe Biden. Vice President Biden, what did you do when they told you your son was on Burisma's board? It undercuts your ability to fight corruption. Did you take it seriously? Obviously he didn't.

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