In an interview with CNN just after the end of Saturday's impeachment trial hearing, where the president's defense team had their first chance to make arguments, Sen. Chris Murphy said: "I don't think it is a really persuasive case, but I was at least glad they didn't today engage in some of the personal attacks and political sideshows that many of us are worried about."
SEN. CHRIS MURPHY (D-CT): I thought the President's lawyers did as effective job as possible in presenting their client's case, that their tone was good, it was respectful. I hope it continues into Monday and Tuesday.
They spent a lot of time talking about whether or not the Ukrainians knew that that the funding was on hold throughout the summer. I'm not sure the utility of spending so much time making that point because the evidence is pretty overwhelming that first the White House used the meeting to try to leverage these negotiations, and then after that they turned to the aid.
And so there's not really a question of whether or not we were trying to use our security aid in order to get these political investigations, it is just a matter of when that began, so I don't think it is a really persuasive case. But I was at least glad that they didn't today engage in some of the personal attacks and the political sideshows that many of us are worried about.
BLITZER: Were you surprised, there was really no substantive mention of the Bidens?
MURPHY: I would be surprised if it doesn't show up Monday and Tuesday, given what Republican Senators have been saying off line and comments that the President's Counsel have been making to reporters throughout the House Managers' testimony, but I will take today's testimony and just say that I was glad that we didn't get into these Fox News conspiracy theories in the two hours that the House presented today.
BLITZER: Did you hear any actual factual errors by these four White House lawyers that were uttered today?
MURPHY: Well, you know they continue to make these claims about secret hearings in the House of Representatives that continue to be untrue. There were 100 members of the House that were able to be part of those hearings. They make these claims that subpoenas weren't valid because there was no impeachment resolution at the beginning of the inquiry.
That's not true. The House always has the legal ability to subpoena records from the administration, and they continue to make this claim that Ukraine felt no pressure and that's just nonsense. I as you know Wolf has been working on U.S./Ukraine policy for the better part of the last decade.
I was hearing in the spring from my contacts who were visiting Ukraine that they were feeling pressure. The minute that Rudy Giuliani showed up and started demanding these investigations into the Bidens and of course it would stand - reason that the Ukrainians were feeling pressure when the President is telling them the one thing I care about is doing investigations into my political opponents.