Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver joins MSNBC's Alex Witt to discuss impeachment. Paraphrasing Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War', the representative says that political battles are often based on deception and that the president is currently losing a political and mental battle with Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
ALEX WITT, MSNBC: How soon can we expect the Speaker to send impeachment articles to the Senate? Have you spoken to the speaker at all in the recess and gotten an indication of the timing?
REP. EMMANUEL CLEAVER: No, but I think it is important or the people to understand. That Sun Tzu, in the "The Art of War," he said that political battles are usually based on deception. I think that Donald Trump falls for the deception that Nancy Pelosi is laying out there. For example, he thought, okay, we are going to get articles of impeachment, and they are going to send them over to the Senate, and Pelosi had deceived him. And at every turn, he is going to be facing the principles of the "The Art of War." So I think that if I were Donald Trump I would try to figure out what she is going to do next because she is in complete control of Donald Trump's mind.