The New Yorker's David Remnick weighs in on the impeachment of President Donald Trump in an interview with CNN's Brian Stelter on 'Reliable Sources.' Remnick said the future of not just democracy but the world is in danger and rests on the impeachment of Trump.
BRIAN STELTER, CNN, 'RELIABLE SOURCES' HOST: My question this Sunday is, what did we learn if anything in the past week?
With me to discuss that and much more is the editor of "The New Yorker", David Remnick. He's been running the New Yorker since 1998. The last time there was an impeachment all over the news.
David, thanks for being here. Great to see you.
DAVID REMNICK, EDITOR, THE NEW YORKER: Great to see you, Brian.
STELTER: Did anything change this week?
REMNICK: Well, I'll tell you what, I think I hope changes. That I think is more important, because we've seen the Republicans stuck where they are. They're illusions about Trump remain, and you're right to describe it as a flat line.
Here's what I hope that we understand, that the -- the stakes here are immense. It's just -- it's not just about the political future of one man, Donald Trump. It's about the future of democracy and democratic process and this is a -- a trend throughout the world.
It's about the future of the earth. We have a party that has decided to be disbelieving about climate change. It's about issues as essential as that. And right now, you have a country that is split, and to great frustration of people like you and people like me, we don't somehow understand. We don't understand why the evidence of things, why facts don't penetrate so many of our brothers and sisters in the United States of America. And this is a source of great frustration for the press.
STELTER: For the press.
REMNICK: And for anybody who is thinking about these issues that are so important.
STELTER: In your new column in NewYorker.com, you write the shock of Trump's election three years ago obscured what you call tragedy of equal moment, the eclipse of reason, fact and ethical judgment in the Republican Party.
REMNICK: Let's be deluded here. It's not as if reason and fact and truth telling were pervasive in any political party much less the Republican Party.
REMNICK: But things have gotten markedly worse. Lindsey Graham during the campaign called Donald Trump unfit for office. A bigot, a xenophobe.
Mitch McConnell makes no secret in the halls of Senate his contempt for so much of Trump and Trumpism.
Marco Rubio, the Bushes, so much of the Republican Party, their candidates, their leadership, know the score. Everybody in the Senate and the House knows that this is a man of low character, of ethical -- ethics run amuck. This is -- this is not -- nobody in the Republican Party thinks this is a good and decent man.
These are people who are looking to their political advantages. They think if they act or speak against them, they will lose their seats. So, the only people that are really speaking against him are people who are all set to retire.
STELTER: Right, many retirements. "The New York Times" points out, 40 percent. It's Republican.
REMNICK: Yes, this is not exactly profiles in courage time. And Jon Meacham, by the way, is right to point out that if you look historically at the cost of opposing your president within the party, the price is not that high. People are -- people are themselves lacking character and courage. It has to be said straight up.