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Schiff: "Body Of Evidence" That Pence May Have Known About Trump's Ukraine Call


Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), chair of the House Intelligence Committee, talks with Rachel Maddow about the supplemental testimony by State Department official Jennifer Williams that Mike Pence has made classified. Schiff says the material sheds light on the vice president's knowledge of Donald Trump's Ukraine scheme and does not contain anything that needs to be classified.

RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: Let me ask you about part of this that is -- remains under your purview even now as the impeachment effort has produced these two articles against the president, and that is that you seem to still be pulling on some threads here, including some potentially provocative and consequential ones. I'm thinking specifically about a letter that you sent to the vice president's office this week in which you raised questions as to what the vice president knew about the president's behavior, the president's scheme in Ukraine, and thereby essentially his potential involvement in any cover-up of that behavior by the president.

Are you actively looking at Vice President Mike Pence and his role in this scandal? And should we expect further revelations either related to the vice president or related to the other core parts of these allegations that have resulted in this impeachment tonight?

REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA): Well, we have acquired a piece of evidence, classified submission by Jennifer Williams, something that she alluded to in her open testimony that in going back and looking through her records, she found other information that was pertinent to that phone call that we asked her about and made that submission. There is nothing that should be classified in that submission but yet, the vice president's office has said they're going to assert classification, or it's classified.

It is not proper to classify something because it would be embarrassing or incriminating, and that summation does shed light on the vice president's knowledge, and we think the American people should see it. Certainly, any senators in the trial should have access to it.

But it just goes to show that there is a body of evidence, documentary and otherwise that administration figures from the president on down to include the vice president do not want the American people to see or know. And the question is, will they succeed? Will the cover-up succeed, or will the Senate insist on what we were not able to obtain in the House? And that is a White House that will comply with lawful process.

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