Democratic Rep. Jim Himes told "Meet the Press" anchor Chuck Todd Sunday mornign that it will be easier to convince the public the president committed a crime by threatening to withhold military aid to Ukraine by comparing him to a mob boss than by accusing him of a "quid pro quo" arrangement.
"When are you trying to persuade the American people of something really pretty simple, which is that the president acted criminally and extorted in the way a mob boss would extort somebody, a vulnerable foreign country," he said. "It is probably best not to use Latin words to explain it."
CHUCK TODD: Do you feel as if that word does not penetrate the seriousness with what happened?
REP. JIM HIMES: Well I have two problems with quid pro quo. Number one, when you're trying to persuade the American people of something that is really pretty simple, which is that the President acted criminally and extorted in the way a mob boss would extort somebody, a vulnerable foreign country, it's probably best not to use Latin words to explain it. But the other thing I object to is that this is where the Republicans went. Extortion doesn't require a “you give me this, and I'll give you that” kind of quid pro quo. It simply requires using your muscle to get something that you don't have a right to. So look, and by the way, of course the crowning absurdity here is now they're all pretty much admitting because Ambassador Sondland has refreshed his recollection, they're all basically admitting there was a quid pro quo. But gosh it wasn't that bad, it was exactly the same thing as Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton. So look we gotta get off this quid pro quo thing because it's complicated, they've already attested to the fact that it occurred and what we're dealing with here is corruption, abuse of power in a way that damaged American national security.