In an interview with MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Michael Moore talked about a new poll on President Trump's job approval and how voting for Trump is a "racial thing" for a lot of people in the working class. Moore said Tuesday some white voters are afraid of losing the "power" they currently have and have been taught to "fear the other."
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: You're a real person. Why do people like you except for your politics stick with his guy? Who are these people? I've got a brother like this. I love my brother but he talks to me like Trump is triumphant right now?
MICHAEL MOORE: Why do people that I know back home --
MATTHEWS: Yeah, who grew up with the same background you had stick with Trump -- working class white people if you will, or working class in general.
MOORE: Well, you said the keyword, white. Sadly, I think it is a racial thing on some level with a lot of people.
Let me say it in a different way, I think that white guys, the lunch bucket Joes from Macomb County.
MATTHEWS: Across from -- outside of Detroit.
MOORE: Yes. They can see the writing on the wall. The women are coming. They have arrived last November. We are now -- this is the eighth September in a row where the majority of first-graders in this country last month were not white.
MOORE: Majority were not white.
MATTHEWS: Meaning Hispanic, African-American or Asian.
MOORE: Correct. So we now see the demographic shift that by the 2040s white people will be the minority, and I think there’s some level of fear about that probably in the way that white people in South Africa were afraid what's going to happen with Mandela and the black majority. But of course what happens is, what history shows --
MATTHEWS: But the people of South Africa really earned the trouble they got. They were wrong for years, really bad.
MOORE: But here we have African-Americans who are still on the bottom rung of the ladder after all these years. And those of us who are white especially white guys still having that door opened just a little bit easier for us. And we know it. We know we're not followed around when we go to the department store.
MATTHEWS: Look, I know what you're talking about. Nobody's looking at you in the restaurant. Nobody's looking at you.
MOORE: That's correct. So black Americans still have it pretty damn rough, and --
MATTHEWS: So that spreads into a white voter and he votes white.
MOORE: Yes, because some white voters are afraid -- when you're in power you don't want to lose what you have and let's face it, white guys --
MATTHEWS: Yeah but working-class guys who are struggling along, the struggling class, you know, working paycheck to paycheck, they don't think they're elite. They don't think of themselves as --
MOORE: No, but they've been told to fear the other. The other is coming to take your country.