Sen. Ron Johnson vs. Chuck Todd On Ukraine: I Do Not Trust The FBI Or CIA After Strzok, Page, And Comey | Video | RealClearPolitics

Ron Johnson vs. Chuck Todd: I Don't Trust FBI Or CIA After Strzok, Page, And Comey; "I Want The Truth"


During a heated interview on Sunday's "Meet The Press," Republican Senator Ron Johnson accused former members of the FBI and CIA of conspiring to frame President Trump. Host Chuck Todd fired back by calling Johnson's accusations "Fox News conspiracy propaganda stuff."

Johnson began the segment by stating: "I have never seen in my lifetime a president, after being elected, have some measure of well-wishes from his opponents. I've never seen a presidential administration be sabotage from the day after the election, I've never seen [a president getting] no measure of honeymoon whatsoever. What President Trump has had to endure --a false accusation. By the way, when you have John Brennan on, you ought to ask him: what did Peter Stzrok mean when he texted Lisa Page--"

"What does this have to do with Ukraine?" host Chuck Todd interrupted. "What does this have to do with Ukraine?"

"It has everything to do with Ukraine," Johnson replied. "Six days before that is when we first heard the CIA leaking about Russia supporting the Trump campaign. That is why Trump is so upset. He had this false narrative that resulted in him being set up by James Comey... and now that that has been proven false, he would like to know and I would like to know, where did this all come from? Who planted this false story?"

At that, Chuck Todd audibly sighed and said: "Why a Fox News conspiracy propaganda stuff is popping up on here, I have no idea."

"It is not that, and that is exactly why President Trump is upset and why his supporters are upset with the news media," Johnson replied.

"This is not about the media," Chuck Todd said. "Senator Johnson, please, can we please... I have no idea why we're going here. ... Can we please answer the question I asked you instead of trying to make Donald Trump feel better here that you're not criticizing him? I'm just trying to ask you a simple question of what made you wince. I'm asking a simple question about you clearly were upset that there was an implication military aid was being frozen because the president wanted an investigation."

"He wants an accounting of what happened in Ukraine in 2016. Who set him up. Did things spring from Ukraine? ... Ukrainian officials reportedly helped Clinton allies research Trump’s advisers," Johnson stated. "There is potential interference in the 2016 campaign. That’s what Trump wants to get to the bottom of. But the press doesn’t want to."

Johnson added: "I’m being called a conspiracy theorist, John Solomon is, because the press is horribly biased and Trump and his supporters completely understand that."

"There are a lot of unanswered questions,” the senator exclaimed. "Chuck, I just want the truth. The American people want the truth."

"So do you not trust the FBI? Do you not trust the CIA?" Todd asked.

Johnson replied: "No, no, I don’t. Absolutely not. After Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, after James Comey?!"

“I’m sorry that you chose to come on this way, senator," Chuck Todd said as he ended the interview.

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