House Intelligence Committee ranking member Devin Nunes (R-CA) on whistleblower conferring with Schiff staff before filing complaint.
TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: Congressman Devin Nunes is right in the middle of all this. He's the Ranking Republican on the House Intel Committee, and he joins us tonight -- former Chairman of it.
Congressman, thanks so much for coming on.
REP. DEVIN NUNES, R-CALIF.: It's great to be with.
CARLSON: Do you believe this explanation?
NUNES: No. No.
CARLSON: So it looks --
NUNES: Schiff's explanation. Yes, absolutely not.
CARLSON: Yes. So it looks from the perspective of people in the outside, like Adam Schiff's office guided this complaint, like it was a setup.
NUNES: Well, and it looks like he knew something beforehand, because you know, this was in the press, then you had tweets, you had stories written by known Fusion GPS reporters. And then you fast forward, he had a couple of times that he could have told us in private, that this had happened. Okay, now, nothing by law makes him -- he didn't have to tell us. But he clearly gave no indication that he had ever met with the whistleblower or anybody on his team had ever met with a whistleblower.
I mean, that's the real issue here. Two opportunities -- I'm talking about two opportunities behind closed doors, and he didn't tell us.
CARLSON: So this is not, you know, one among many stories, this is the basis for the impeachment of the President of the United States, and so it's not a small thing. It's the opposite of that. How can any of us have confidence that this isn't just a pure partisan invention?
NUNES: Yes. Well, it is a partisan adventure. And it's not a real impeachment, the way that impeachment process has worked the other times it's been used. Okay. I just came from the Capitol. And we had, I mean, nine hours of Ambassador Volker, which if you listen to the mainstream media and the Democrats, this was going to be the guy that was going to give up all the goods on Rudy Giuliani, and because this was the Special Envoy to Ukraine on behalf of the Trump administration.
Of course, they went on and on and on. Why did they keep going on and on? Because they weren't getting what they wanted. I came in there at the end, I was -- I felt horrible for the man in here. Yes, he has been a public servant. He is getting married in a few weeks. And he just wants this to be done with.
NUNES: And of course, you know, you wouldn't know that by number one, what leaked out before his testimony and what's leaked out ever since then.
CARLSON: So I have to ask you about the C.I.A. since you oversaw it. You were in charge the oversight of the C.I.A. and the other Intel agencies as the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
Do you feel that our Intelligence agencies are properly over seen by the Congress? Does the Congress -- democracy have control - full control - of these agencies?
NUNES: I think you could argue over the F.B.I. counterintelligence area that started this investigation into the Trump campaign. No. Zero. The F.B.I. has not cooperated throughout this investigation, perhaps with what the Attorney General is doing, running an investigation into the beginnings of the Russia probe. Yes.
With the C.I.A., I think the challenge has been what we've -- what Republicans have been pushing, when you go on to the hinterlands, you've got to remember, these agents put their lives on the line. Okay. The people that are out in the field.
The challenge you have is there's way too many Intelligence officials and consultants and former agents that are now pontificating on networks that live here in the swamp. And look, there's a reason to have a small cadre of folks here in the swamp.
CARLSON: I get it.
NUNES: But you know -- and I can't give the number, but I can just tell you that a majority of people are here in the swamp, which is not where they should be,
CARLSON: No, of course not -- a majority, really?
NUNES: I would think it's about a majority. When you take the Department of Defense, C.I.A., D.N.I., and all the other 17 different --
CARLSON: They're hanging around the capital city, of course, they are.
NUNES: They are lobbying for more money for their programs.
CARLSON: Of course, they are.
NUNES: And I'll tell you one thing that people forget. You know, I was the one ironically, in the spring of '16, when they're opening an investigation into the Trump campaign for colluding with the Russians, I went out and said the biggest Intelligence failure since 9/11 was our inability to understand Vladimir Putin's plans and intentions -- in the spring of 2016.
And of course, you know what they did to me, the press corps in this town, and the Democrats.
CARLSON: Yes, you were the --
NUNES: I was the secret Russian spy they were looking for all along.
CARLSON: You were, in fact -- we are communicating, I think in Russian when we would meet secretly in the park. Congressman, great to see you.