Jake Tapper to Rep. Speier: What's The Point Of Having A Hearing With A Hostile Witness Like Lewandowski?


CNN's Jake Tapper asks Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) what was the point of holding a hearing with a hostile witness such as former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: You were among those on the House Intelligence Committee that got to question Lewandowski back in April of 2018.

Sources told CNN that he repeatedly cursed at lawmakers to make the point that he would not talk about issues he didn't find relevant. So I can't imagine you're surprised by his stonewalling today. What is the point of having a hearing with a hostile witness?

REP. JACKIE SPEIER (D-CA): Well, you could have a hearing with a hostile witness if you can extract from that individual important information.

He is refusing to answer. And so, when you refuse to answer, I think you have but one course of action. And that is by ensuing what would be calling inherit contempt and then start fining him.

And the only thing that talks around this administration is money. So if you start fining him, let's say, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000 a day, at some point, you are going to get him to comply.

TAPPER: Well, let me ask you one other question, because I asked you a question about critics who think you guys aren't being -- that House Democrats aren't being tough enough. What about those on the right or the middle of the country who say, I don't understand what you are even doing, the Mueller report didn't find any evidence of conspiracy, why are you even having this hearing, as opposed to doing the work of the American people?

What would you say to them?

SPEIER: Well, what I would say to them that we can, in fact, walk and chew gum at the same time.

There have been over 100 bills passed by the House that are sitting over on the Senate side that are not being taken up, one of which is just closing loopholes on the background checks law that has been in existence since the 1990s, before there was an Internet, before there were gun shows.

And yet Mr. Majority Leader over there, Mr. Grim Reaper, does not want to take it up. So I say we have a very clear responsibility to pursue impeachment.

I'm one of those from the very beginning that believed that if you have over 250 contacts with Russians, as the Trump campaign did, if you have 32 in-person meetings, as the Trump campaign did, with Russian operatives, yes, I do think there was Russian engagement welcomed by the Trump campaign.

And then you have over 10 obstruction of justice incidents in which the Mueller report established that, but for the fact that you can't indict a sitting president based on DOJ guidelines, that doesn't mean the Congress doesn't have the right to impeach.

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