Fmr. ICE Director vs. Debbie Wasserman Schultz on DACA: "I've Forgotten More About This Issue Than You'll Ever Know"


Former ICE director Tom Homan shoots down Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a heated exchange over deferred action.

From Wednesday's House Oversight and Reform Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties hearing on Medical Deferred Action for Critically Ill Children:

REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D-FL): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before I ask my questions, since it has not yet been done I think it's important to really make sure that the jingoist, bigoted testimony of Mr. Homan is called out as nearly completely untrue, as being an outrage. And as a former official directing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, he should know better. So making sure that I am--

UNKNOWN: Mr. Chairman.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: No, no, this is my five minutes.

TOM HOMAN, FMR. ACTING ICE DIRECTOR: What did I say that was inaccurate?

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I'm not asking a question.

RASKIN: Okay, the gentlelady is recognized for five minutes. She's made her point, and I will try to resolve any other issues at the end of her questioning.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Thank you. So I just think it's important that it's not accepted as accurate testimony. 


REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): I just want to get--because your--your testimony is that the broader issue and I--this is critically important but we also have a broader issue that we have unbelievable numbers we have seen on the border with apprehensions and everything else, right?

HOMAN: Absolutely. And if I can respond to the earlier remark from Wasserman Schultz I have forgotten more about this issue then you will ever know. So to say my testimony is inaccurate is wrong. Everything I said here is accurate. Bottom line. If you want to go toe to toe I am here. I am here on my own time to speak to the American people about what is what and what is fact.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I am sure happy to go toe to toe with you Mr. Homan. Happy to do that any day.

HOMAN: Well, I--I am here. But you've got to let me respond to your question rather than dropping a bomb and running away.


HOMAN: There is a crisis on the border and--and it is not going to go away if we keep enticing more and more--if we want to abolish ICE, we want to give away college education and drivers licenses and free medical care and rewarding illegal behavior you are never going to solve the immigration crisis on the border. It's not going to happen.

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