Eddie Glaude: NYT's 1619 Project Demonstrates The History Of Racism, How We Got To Donald Trump


Critics, including President Trump and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich attack the New York Times’ 1619 Project detailing the history and impact of slavery in America. Karine Jean-Pierre and Princeton professor Eddie Glaude Jr. offered their perspective Monday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: I think the vitriol we're hearing from the right and Donald Trump, it just shows on the pushback on this is, it shows how scared they are. Right? We have to come to terms that this country was indeed built on the backs of slaves, period. Full stop.

What "The New York Times" is doing, they're just speaking the truth. Speaking the truth to power, and that's incredibly important, and for those who are saying that this is partisan or this is threatening to their world view, they're the very ones who need to hear this. It's important for all of us to hear and to really learn about, many of us did not learn about this history. About the history of black -- the black history and slavery in this country.

You know? This country's original sin, after -- what was the genocide of indigenous people. This is critical. It's key. It's key for us. Key for our children and it's also important to know how we're moving forward as a country. To know our history. How do we move forward?

EDDIE GLAUDE: Well, it seems to me that, you know, the distinction that Jon Meacham made earlier about America -- the American story is reaching out as opposed to a closed fist, that's part of the story we tell ourselves, to fortify a particularly idealized version of who we are.

But when we measure that against our practices we know that reaching out has always been aspirational in some ways. That the reality of our lives have been defined in some ways by our limitations. What the 1619 Project does -- when you shift the story of America from the Plymouth -- from Plymouth Rock to Jamestown, the contradictions of the country come into full view.

So what we see is this idea of slavery over determining the very ways in which we understand the notions of liberty and freedom and equality. And how we have been grappling with that since the founding. And how the lies that we have told ourselves, right, whether it's the Dunning School, Reconstruction or John Burgees and how slavery was a mistake as opposed to a systemic effort that generated and define the country, when we tell the story really we can understand why Atlanta traffic is the way it is. We can understand why the racial gap is the way it is. We can understand why sugar in Louisiana functions the way it functions. Right? So one of the special things about the issue it takes immediate today issues, concerns and shows us the history, demonstrates the history how we have gotten to this point. And Trump has unsettled the sentiment at the bottom of our politics and we can't put it back.

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