Josh Holmes, a former chief of staff to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and founder of the lobby group Calvary, weighs in on the feud between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
CHRIS WALLACE, 'FOX NEWS SUNDAY' HOST: Josh, things are much more orderly in the Senate than they are in that unruly lower chamber, as it's known, the House.
What do you think's going on with the House Democrats?
JOSH HOLMES, 'CALVARY': Well, I mean, for those of us who have watched Nancy Pelosi's leadership over the last ten years, and -- and -- and really Democratic leadership in general, I think they've been very reckless at accusations of racism for a long time now, so it's really difficult for a lot of us to shed a tear about watching them reap what they sow with AOC and the rest of them in this latest clash.
I will say it -- she is in a more tenuous position than John Boehner ever was. And --
WALLACE: She, Pelosi?
HOLMES: She, Pelosi. And -- and I think --
WALLACE: Why? Be -- I'm a little surprised you say that because the House Freedom Caucus had a lot more members than "the squad" does. I love "the squad." We're going to make -- it's "the squad."
HOLMES: "The squad." It's "the squad" from here on out.
HOLMES: The first opportunity that they had in a legislative function to sort of show these rifts is right before the Fourth of July. And I think if you back up and look at the timeline in 2010 for when John Boehner's problems started, these are accelerated. These are much, much quicker, in a much, much more aggressive way and personal way that House Republicans ever were at that stage.
What is equally hard for me to figure out is how she can ever repair it. I mean we're talking about extreme differences that are manifesting themselves on the national stage in extremely personal attacks with two sides of the conference, never the two shall meet. And so the governing at this stage looks to me to be very, very difficult.