Chris Ruddy vs. CNN Don Lemon: Why Are You Focused On Trump & Epstein But Not Democrats & Epstein?

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Newsmax founder Chris Ruddy appeared on Don Lemon's CNN show to defend President Trump and admonished the CNN host, the network, and rest of the media for attempting to tie the president to sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein.

Lemon drilled Ruddy for details about a Trump-Epstein relationship but couldn't come up with much and caused Ruddy to confront him over biased. Ruddy, a friend of Lemon, told the CNN host it "really hurts your audience" for trying to link Trump to Epstein through guilt by association.





Ruddy also claimed on good authority that Secretary Acosta will be out of the Trump administration by the end of the month.

"I think that he is not going to stay for long. I don't want to make a whole judgment on everything that he's taken. I haven't spoken to the president about it but we're reporting on Newsmax tonight actually our White House correspondent says that he will be out in the next couple of weeks," Ruddy reported.

"It's pretty clear watching your show and other shows on CNN that people want that question to be totally deleted from the census," Ruddy said Tuesday night. "It seems like a basic question considering that billions of dollars are being decided on that question and the apportionment of Congress."

Ruddy said citizenship in the census is a basic question to help decide how money is spent and called it is a winning issue for Trump.

"It's pretty clear watching your show and other shows on CNN that people want that question to be totally deleted from the census. It seems like a basic question considering that billions of dollars are being decided on that question and the apportionment of Congress.

"I do believe it's a simple... it's a winning issue for the president," Ruddy said. "I do know that the president thinks he's on very safe ground. He and I chatted about it over the weekend," Ruddy revealed."

Lemon asked Ruddy to react to a quote Trump made in 2002: "That I have known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy... He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

"You keep repeating that," Ruddy said of the quote. "I've seen it like a gazillion times on your network and a couple of other places. They are Democrats very close to Jeffrey Epstein that had a very close relationship with him. They're not being mentioned."

"You're absolutely right," Lemon responded. "If a Democrat was the president now and you were friends with that Democrat I would be asking you that question."

"I think it's highly unfair of people like you and others to do guilt by association," Ruddy told Lemon. "Whether it's Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Alan Dershowitz just because they knew the guy."

"I think it really hurts your audience because I think there are a lot of independent-minded [people]," Ruddy added.

Ruddy vs. Lemon on CNN, media pushing for citizenship question being "deleted" from the census:

LEMON: I'm just asking the question. I'm not saying whether you should ask it or not. I'm saying the courts said you can't do it.

RUDDY: It's pretty clear watching your show and other shows on CNN that people want that question to be totally deleted from the census. It seems like a basic question considering that billions of dollars are being decided on that question and the apportionment of Congress.

The president is saying this is very simple. Let's just ask people are they a citizen of the United States in the census so that we make sure that the apportionment is done on the how many congressmen a particular state get. It seems like pretty reasonable. It used to be asked in the census. It isn't asked now and he wants it asked...

LEMON: The Supreme Court has ruled. The DOJ has given up. Why does he keep --

RUDDY: I don't know all the legal issues, I'm not a lawyer but I do believe it's a simple -- it's a winning issue for the president.

LEMON: Politically?

RUDDY: It's also a smart issue about how the government -- we never really had the situation where we have 10 to 15 -- we're not sure how many illegals we have in the country. There's 10 to 15 million. I think there should be -- the whole point of a census is you do a count. And so the president says let's do a proper count. And somehow this is what is it, racist?

Why would you not want to ask people in the census? The census is a count of the citizens of a particular country.


Ruddy accuses Don Lemon, CNN of bias for focusing on Donald Trump's connection to Epstein and not Democrats:

DON LEMON: Did you talk about Epstein over the weekend [with President Trump]?

CHRIS RUDDY: We didn't. But I have been following this and it's really interesting. I would say during a 15 year period, I saw the president almost every single weekend from November until May. Then I would see him offseason, that's the season in Florida. And I would see him in different places. Jeffrey Epstein was never seen. He was never around.

LEMON: What years are you referring to?

RUDDY: Probably around 2004.

LEMON: Okay. I just want to, this is again President Trump in 'The New York Times': 'That I have known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy... He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life.'

I mean in retrospect the younger side considering the trouble now that Epstein's in.

RUDDY: You keep repeating that. I've seen it like a gazillion times on your network and a couple of other places. They are Democrats very close to Jeffrey Epstein that had a very close relationship with him. They're not being mentioned.

LEMON: You're absolutely right. Let me say this. If a Democrat was a president now and you were friends with that Democrat I would be asking you the question.

RUDDY: What Justice Department is reprosecuting?

LEMON: I don't want to get offtrack here.

RUDDY: No, no. This is important. What Justice Department is reprosecuting this guy? Was it Obama?

....

I'm telling you as a friend of the president and somebody that is looking at the news and covering the news. Geoffrey Berman was the appointee of Donald Trump. The Southern District of New York is very aggressively pursuing this case. Donald Trump apparently knew this guy like a lot of other people did, socially. He said some nice things at the time. Nobody knew, there was no press reports. As far as I can see I don't think any of the people that knew Jeffrey Epstein knew that he was engaging in the illicit activities back in 2002 when the president made the comment.

I think it's highly unfair of people like you and others to do guilt by association. Whether it's Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Alan Dershowitz just because they knew the guy.

LEMON: I'm not saying guilt by association. What do you want me to invite you on and not ask you questions about what's in the news about someone who got a sweetheart deal from [Secretary of Labor Alex] Acosta.

RUDDY: But if you keep constantly saying he's some pedophile -- my experience with Donald Trump is if he sees somebody as a bad apple, whether they are doing something perverted like this, he will stay as far away from those people as possible. And it's come out in press reports, I'm not knowledgeable, but as soon as they heard about some of this they said he wasn't allowed at Mar-a-Lago. I never even knew that he attended Mar-a-Lago.

LEMON: They said it was because of the federal charges against him, that they revoked his membership.

RUDDY: Even before that, I had been a member and I had never seen him there and nobody had ever mentioned his name. So the idea that Donald Trump is somehow associated with this guy is just -- he knew the guy, he knew him socially. He said nice things about him. it's now coming --

LEMON: I think you're thinking, oh, it's because people want to associate Donald Trump with that behavior.

RUDDY: But I know exactly what you're doing. You're putting quotes.

LEMON: It's about Alex Acosta.

RUDDY: You're not putting many quotes from Democrats and people that received money and campaign donations from him that were Democrats and all of the relationships.

LEMON: We were talking about Bill Clinton last night. Bill Clinton put out statement and we covered it on this network.

RUDDY: I happen to believe -- like I know the Bill Clinton thing was totally ridiculous. That he had never been on the island. He was always with Secret Service. But I don't like the guilt by association with anyone.

LEMON: I think that's fair.

RUDDY: I think with Donald Trump it keeps being repeated. Not just on this network, but there are other networks. And I think it's very -- I think it really hurts your audience because I think there are a lot of independent-minded [people].

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