Michael Caputo: People Trying To Destroy Trump So No Billionaire Will Run For President Again


Former Trump campaign advisor Michael Caputo said the decision to put Paul Manafort in solitary confinement in New York's Rikers Island sends a message to "not to mess with the left." In an interview with Tucker Carlson, Caputo said "they're in this to destroy Donald Trump" and make sure no billionaire ever thinks about running for president again.

"They're in this to destroy Donald Trump, destroy his family, destroy his businesses, destroy all of his friends, so that no billionaire wakes up in 10 years and says he should run for President because his wife will tell them, 'Are you nuts?' Or her husband will tell her, 'Are you crazy?'" Caputo said Tuesday.

TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: You know what they do care about? Paul Manafort, a very dangerous man. Seventy years old.

Now, whatever his crimes may or may not have been, he is obviously not a threat to anyone. He is in poor health. Right now though, Manafort is facing additional criminal charges in the state of New York, so prosecutors have decided to hold him in solitary confinement at Rikers Island, one of the worst detention facilities in the world.

They don't need to do that. They're doing it because they can, because they want to hurt him and torture him.

Prosecutors say Manafort will be there for his own safety, which if you think about it is a pretty amazing admission. They're telling us that they've riled people up so much that people may try to murder a 70-year-old man because they believe the propaganda that he is an agent of Russia.

Of course, the real motivation is not a mystery. It's just cruelty. The left's standard is that if you support politicians they don't like, you deserve to be destroyed.

Sending Manafort to prison is not enough. He is to suffer as much as possible.

Michael Caputo knows a lot about suffering for political views. He is a former adviser to the Trump campaign and he joins us tonight. Michael, thanks very much for coming on.


CARLSON: So a 70-year-old man to Rikers Island, what's the message of this?

CAPUTO: The message is that you better not do anything against the left. You, me, anybody watching. You know, I understand that there are real crimes alleged here and that there will be a trial in New York, but we have no idea when that trial date will be.

And to transfer Paul Manafort there now is only for torture -- mental, physical, whatever -- to torture him, because you don't transfer Federal prisoners to states until just before their trial. I've actually never heard of it done before.

So to transfer him there now and put him into solitary confinement in the deepest darkest hole the United States has on the mainland, to me is just mental torture.

CARLSON: Just for some perspective, Manafort is not charged with national security crimes of any kind, with betraying the country in any way. He is charged with, as far as I remember not registering under FARA, which is almost universally here in D.C., well, tax evasion, which sounds like he committed to me and with making false statements to banks.

He is not charged with bank robbery or stealing money from banks, but lying in loan applications to banks.

CAPUTO: Right.

CARLSON: Have you ever heard of anybody charged with those pretty prosaic crimes, getting solitary confinement in Rikers and spending the rest of his life in prison?

CAPUTO: No, you haven't, of course, but it's also a very unique spot -- New York. In New York, politics is a crime scene from the very beginning. We have the most corrupt state government in the United States.

Our attorney, our New York Attorney General, Letitia James is going after Donald Trump. The New York City prosecutor Cy Vance is after Paul Manafort. The New York State Legislature passed what we're calling the Manafort Law just 10 days ago, making double jeopardy legal in New York State. And they did it so they could go after Paul Manafort.

The way it's written, it's almost you have --

CARLSON: Wait, wait, double jeopardy I thought was prohibited by the Constitution.

CAPUTO: Absolutely. Fifth Amendment. But at the same time, you know, there are states that pretend that they can prosecute someone who has been prosecuted on a Federal law, under the same crime in the state law.

They appear to be the same crimes that they're charging Paul Manafort with. They're only doing it because just in case the President pardons him which he should, or at least commute his sentence, they want to be able to still put them in jail because New York State, our politics, it's a crime scene.

And it doesn't matter if it's about Donald Trump, they will break the law, and they'll change the law, so that they don't have to break it in order to go double jeopardy on Paul Manafort.

CARLSON: So if Manafort hadn't served just for a couple of months, as I remember, several months as Trump's campaign manager, where would he be? Would he be in Rikers in solitary, do you think?

CAPUTO: The information we have and I have yet to see it disproven is that he was investigated by the FBI for his work in Ukraine, and they dropped the case until he became Trump's campaign chairman, then they reopened it.

You know, Paul Manafort may have committed some financial crimes, by putting a bit of money overseas. But in reality, the vast majority of the money he made, he paid taxes on, the vast majority of it. You know, you can't commit crimes, you can't commit financial crimes. But of course, if you did, and you hadn't worked for Donald Trump, you'd be sitting at home comfortably waiting for your trial date, because you're not a dangerous criminal.

CARLSON: So really quickly clarify, the Mueller investigation gave us a long litany of how much he paid for various articles of clothing. Is it a crime to overpay for a suit?

CAPUTO: If it's made him ostrich, perhaps, I don't know. But at the same time, you have to understand that this is what they're going to do to all of us. They're in this to destroy Donald Trump, destroy his family, destroy his businesses, destroy all of his friends, so that no billionaire wakes up in 10 years and says he should run for President because his wife will tell them, "Are you nuts?" Or her husband will tell her, "Are you crazy?"

Here's the thing. In my mind, I'm getting a bit wistful about this after having gone through this with my family for two years. Now, looking back on this whole thing and understanding that these people will do anything to get to Donald Trump.

CARLSON: They will do --

CAPUTO: Everything. We need to be very, very afraid.

CARLSON: Well, Trump should just -- should really protect the rest of us from them, I would say.

CAPUTO: If he doesn't do it, who will? It's going to take --

CARLSON: That's another conversation. We're out of time. I wish we had more time. Michael Caputo, it's always great to see you. Thanks.

CAPUTO: Great to see you.

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