Rep. David Cicilline: "Explosive" Flynn Memos Highlight Need For Unredacted Mueller Report

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Rep. David Cicilline told CNN's Wolf Blitzer Thursday that the information contained in less redacted versions of memos in Michael Flynn's criminal case supports the need for release of the full report from special counsel Robert Mueller.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN: Let me get your reaction to the breaking news.



Michael Flynn, once again, the former national security adviser to the president, testified that communication from people connected to the Trump administration and to Congress could have influenced his cooperation with the Mueller investigation.

Is this new information to you and to your committee, or were you aware of all of it?

REP. DAVID CICILLINE (D-RI): This is new to me.

This is very explosive, Wolf. I think it's very clear that this further supports the urgent need of the committee to hear from Mr. Mueller directly to, get the fully unredacted report and all of the supporting materials, and to very likely bring Mr. Flynn before the committee as well.

This is -- this is new information to me. It is presumably contained in the redacted portions of the Mueller report. But it's very relevant to the question of obstruction of justice.

And it should be remembered that the special counsel found 10 instances where the president obstructed justice, and relied on the OLC memorandum that said a sitting president can't be indicted as the basis not to move forward. So this is very, very important evidence for the committee to see.

BLITZER: Well, do you want to investigate this as another example of possible obstruction of justice?

CICILLINE: Oh, absolutely.

Look, we -- the reason that we are pressing so hard for the full Mueller report and all the supporting documents is because the Mueller report can 10 specific instances where the president obstructed justice. And this is additional information.

And now it makes sense that the president was trying, if you remember, to have Director Comey leave -- let this Flynn thing go. We all wondered, why was the president treating Mr. Flynn so differently, trying to get him -- getting the FBI director to sort of let the thing go, never attacking him publicly?

And now we at least have part of the answer. So it's very important that the committee get the full context of this, the supporting documents, the tape recordings, if there are any.

And, again, this underscores the committee's urgent demand that these materials be made available to us, so that we can do our work to hold this administration accountable, to make judgments about how to proceed and whether or not impeachment is appropriate.

So this is further evidence of the need to do that.

BLITZER: Who might these individuals be, Congressman, these individuals associated with the Trump -- the Trump Organization, the Trump White House, with Congress, who may have been trying to influence Flynn?

CICILLINE: Well, I mean, we just don't know.

But we obviously know that those individuals need to be disclosed to us. It will -- obviously, if they're members of Trump's inner circle, which we assume they are, that's very relevant, what role they played on the president's team. What were the nature of those conversations?

I think Mr. Flynn will be expected to share those details with the committee and to produce whatever evidence he may have to support that. It's not just his sworn testimony, but he apparently has documentary evidence that is also going to be very valuable to the committee.

So I don't think we should speculate on it. But it's very clear that this is central to the obstruction of justice conduct of the president, and the committee absolutely must have access to these materials and to this witness.

BLITZER: Because Flynn also testified that the Trump campaign considered reaching out to WikiLeaks when John Podesta's e-mails became public.

Do you expect more charges to come related to WikiLeaks, for example, in the Roger Stone case or in other ongoing investigations?

CICILLINE: I think it's too early to know that.

But we know they were at least 140 contacts between the Russians and representatives of WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign that were detailed in the Mueller report. So I think there's a lot of information that relates to the conversations that were happening, why they were happening, what people knew.

This, again, is the subject of our inquiry before the Judiciary Committee, which is why it's really essential that we get the fully unredacted report, all the supporting materials, so we can make informed judgments about this very, very serious issue.

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