Rep. Jim Jordan comments on reports that House Judiciary Committee Chairman Nadler is planning to hold Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt for refusing to appear before his committee this week. Jordan said the Democrats on the committee are "nervous about Bill Barr" because of "what he said three weeks ago in front of the Senate Finance Committee."
Barr "made four important points," Jordan explained. "First of all, he said spying did, in fact, take place. Second, he said there is a basis for his concern that the spying wasn't properly predicated. Third, he said there was a failure of leadership at the upper echelon of the FBI. We know that for sure, Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, we know there was a failure of leadership there. And then, fourth, he used two terms that I have never really heard before, and my guess is most Americans haven't. He used the term unauthorized surveillance and he used the term political surveillance."
"So the Democrats are scared," Jordan said. "And, frankly, I think, when we're talking about obstruction of justice, the real obstruction of justice is what Democrats are trying to do to the attorney general. They are trying to stop him by all these things, this contempt and not having him come testify. They are trying to stop him from getting the answers that we just talked about."
Jordan spoke on FNC's "Sunday Morning Futures" with Maria Bartiromo:
BARTIROMO: Before we get into what took place last week in your committee, your reaction to what we just heard from Papadopoulos and Nunes.
JORDAN: Well, I think the fundamental question is, was Joseph Mifsud working for Western intelligence?
And if he was, that changes it all. Bill Barr has indicated he's going to get to the bottom of this. And it is important that we do find out how this all started.
I always go back to this, Maria. January 3, 2017, then the highest ranking official in the United States Congress, Senator Chuck Schumer, said this about president-elect Trump. He said if you mess with the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
And the question is, did that really play out? Was the intelligence community targeting the Trump campaign, targeting the Trump -- then president-elect Trump and the Trump administration? Bill Barr wants to find out. And I think he's going to do it. And I applaud him for doing so.
BARTIROMO: Yes, that is key, because if we learn officially that Mifsud was actually working for the FBI, then we have got the evidence it was all entrapment, it was all a plan.
JORDAN: Well, yes, but it's not just Mifsud. It's like what we have learned from The New York Times. It's this lady Azra Turk, who is a plant trying to set George Papadopoulos up.
We already know about the dossier that was paid for by the Clinton campaign, taken to the secret court to get the warrant to spy on Carter Page, associated with the Trump campaign. We already know about all of that.
So spying -- as Bill Barr said under oath, spying definitely occurred. The question is, was there a proper predicate? And it looks like there wasn't.
I would also point people to -- your viewers to look at Emmet Flood's letter that he sent to the attorney general last week, where he talks about this same fundamental issue. He says, in this great country, unelected people in the bureaucracy, in the executive branch answer to the elected guy. They answer to the president, not the other way around.
And that is critical. When you take Chuck Schumer's statement and Emmet Flood's letter, where he points out that point, this is scary.
And this is why it's so important that Bill Barr and Michael Horowitz get to the bottom of this and report to the American people.
BARTIROMO: That's right. And this is why I, from the beginning, have been saying, this is not about Trump for me. This is not about the president. This is about America. This is about fairness.
JORDAN: It sure is.
BARTIROMO: And I think it's so extraordinary that you have all of these international intel agents; Britain, Australia, Italy, all reaching out to George Papadopoulos.
And what about them reaching out, the London Center of Law reaching out to him on LinkedIn to get him a job, so that they could watch him after he left the Carson campaign?
OK, let me switch gears.
JORDAN: Well, wait. But here's the... -- how much were these people -- how much did the United States taxpayers pay Christopher Steele? How much did the United States taxpayers pay this Azra Turk lady who was trying to set up Papadopoulos?
How much were we paying Halper? All these are important questions that, when we do get Bill Barr in front of our committee, I'm going to ask him, or I hope his investigation will uncover and give us that information.
BARTIROMO: So, my sources are telling me this morning that Jerry Nadler is going to mark up a resolution this Wednesday to hold Bill Barr in contempt.
BARTIROMO: Is that correct?
JORDAN: Probably so.
But, I mean, who knows? These guys are bound and determined to go after the attorney general, to go after President Trump, and are not going to focus on what we need to do to help the country. So I think they're nervous about Bill Barr because remember what he said three weeks ago in front of the Senate Finance Committee.
He made four important points. First of all, he said spying did, in fact, take place. Second, he said there is a basis for his concern that the spying wasn't properly predicated. Third, he said there was a failure of leadership at the upper echelon of the FBI. We know that for sure.
Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, we know there was a failure of leadership there. And then, fourth, he used two terms that I have never really heard before, and my guess is most Americans haven't. He used the term unauthorized surveillance and he used the term political surveillance.
So the Democrats are scared. And, frankly, I think, when we're talking about obstruction of justice, the real obstruction of justice is what Democrats are trying to do to the attorney general. They are trying to stop him by all these things, this contempt and not having him come testify. They are trying to stop him from getting the answers that we just talked about.
BARTIROMO: Yes. By the way, what you said a minute ago about Chuck Schumer saying that the intel agencies will take six days to Sunday to get you back, Sally Yates said that too last year.
BARTIROMO: Remember when she said, don't mess with John Brennan? John Brennan will get you back.
JORDAN: It's scary.
BARTIROMO: And John Brennan was all over TV calling the president treasonous, peddle his former CIA director title.
JORDAN: And when was John Brennan's name ever on a ballot? When was James Clapper's name on a ballot? Jim Comey, Andy McCabe, Jim Baker, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, not one of them were on a ballot.
But Donald Trump's name was. And he was elected president of the United States. And for them not to -- just because they didn't like that, and didn't like the fact that the American people picked this guy to be our commander in chief, they go after him?
BARTIROMO: Hey, they were..
JORDAN: That is scary.
And that's why Emmet Flood's letter -- I would encourage every one of your viewers to read his letter where he lays this out, the leaking and the spying, all this.
So important that we get to the bottom of this. And that's what scares the Democrats. And that's why they are targeting Attorney General Barr.
BARTIROMO: Well, look, you had this group, this cabal of people running the intel agencies. They are running the world.
You had them running the FBI, the CIA, the NSA. And, frankly, they didn't like Donald Trump's personality, Congressman. That's it. They didn't want him as president. It didn't matter to them that he was duly elected.
JORDAN: And, Maria, we now know they misled people twice.
They misled the FISA court when they took the Clinton campaign's paid-for document, when they paid the law firm Perkins Coie, who then hired Fusion, who then went and hired a foreigner, Christopher Steele, to put this garbage document together, the dossier that became the basis for that.
And we also learned last week that, with this person they planted to go after George Papadopoulos, they misled -- they were trying to mislead there too. This was how this all started. And if we now learn that Mifsud was also working as a Western intelligence asset, that is scary.
And so this is why this investigation that Bill Barr has said he's going to do is so important.