Devin Nunes: How Many Spies (With An "S") Did Obama Administration Target At Trump Campaign?


Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking member of the House Intel Committee, spoke with FNC's Maria Bartiromo on "Sunday Morning Futures" about his investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation and why the tale of Joseph Mifsud and George Papadopoulos is key to understanding what happened.

MARIA BARTIROMO: Welcome back we're back with Congressman Devin Nunes, ranking member of the House Intel Committee, and we want to zero in on the letter you sent late Friday, congressman, to the heads of the FBI, the DOJ as well as the NSA, and the CIA. Why did you write this letter?

REP. DEVIN NUNES: Well, we're trying to get to the bottom of Mifsud, so as we talked about it on the last segment this guy originates the investigation. We know that as the Mueller team wrote this Mueller dossier, they used a lot of these news stories that sometimes were generated by leaks from the FBI. Now I don't think the American people expect 20 DOJ lawyers and 40 FBI agents to write a 450-page report that's built off of news stories that in many cases they generated.

I particularly have a problem with this with one of the stories is because they pick a news story and then they cherry-pick from it, so they use it partly to describe where Mifsud worked, but then they fail to say in that same story, that they have given support to by using it in the Mueller dossier, they cherry-pick it and they don't use that Mifsud was described as a "western intelligence asset."

Now, Maria, anybody who's out there all they have to do is get on the world wide web and if you type in Joseph Mifsud, Link Campus [a university in Malta] which is where he worked, you will find, you don't even have to be able to read, okay? You'll find pictures of him with many foreign dignitaries, foreign leaders. You'll see that the Link Campus had -- the FBI was on the Link Campus doing training all the time, nearly every year. So how is it that we spend 30+ million dollars on this, as taxpayers, and they can't even tell us who Joseph Mifsud is?

We're getting to the bottom of this, so we believe he has ties to the State Department, the State Department, actually our State Department had him in the United States Capitol in 2017, Joseph Mifsud. And remember, why is Mifsud so important? Because Mueller, the Mueller dossier team, they essentially make this guy out to be a Russian asset under the control of Putin, said that he has ties to these Russians. Sound familiar?

So this is the origination of this investigation and it seems like Mifsud has an awful lot of ties to U.S., British, and Italian intelligence services.

MARIA BARTIROMO: Do you believe that the FBI had all of these sources out to entrap people from the Trump campaign, so that they could claim that there was a conspiracy that Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians? But in fact, they put all of these sources all across the world to get to members of the Trump campaign, like they reached out to George Papadopoulos?

DEVIN NUNES: Well, remember what I said on your show last year. I think I actually said it first, on your show as I recall. I said I'm not worried about whether or not they were spying on the Trump campaign, that is fact. What I want to know is how many spies (with an "s") were involved in this. I mean, this is why we have to get to the bottom of this, all of this information needs to come out...

Well, on Mifsud. So in the letter, we also point out, there's a lot talk about how George Papadopoulos who was just on earlier, he caused the FBI and the Mueller team problems because he didn't tell them about the relationship with Mifsud and how Mifsud had offered e-mails. Now, this is in 2017. This is in the Mueller dossier, so this is all about in 2017, how George Papadopoulos harms their investigation.

Right? Well, how is it then that the FBI, or supposedly the FBI or other assets, know to continually ask George Papadopoulos about Clinton e-mails in 2016?

MARIA BARTIROMO: Right nobody knew it except Mifsud and Papadopoulos? So how did the FBI know if Mifsud wasn't an asset of the FBI?

Let me ask you this. This all of spying going on, early in 2016, watching George Papadopoulos, knowing that he was reaching out to Lewandowski, this London Center, reaching out to him to go work there. There wasn't a warrant. The FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen like they did with Carter Page didn't happen until October later that year. So was this illicit spying?

DEVIN NUNES: Well, it's beyond me. I never knew you could use counterintelligence capabilities, these are the capabilities in our government to go after and target terrorists. I never knew that you could actually go out and use those capabilities to spy on Americans, and we don't know all of this yet for sure, but we have strong suspicions that that is exactly what was happening. And you really only have to look at the text messages from Strzok and Page who were the FBI agents who were the lead that ultimately served on the Mueller dossier team. They were texting about this stuff.

MARIA BARTIROMO: They wanted an insurance policy.

DEVIN NUNES: That's right.

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