Benjamin Wittes: Mueller Report Changes The Way History Will Remember Donald Trump

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Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institution told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Friday that even without any indictment, the Mueller report is a "mammoth record" of the misconduct of President Trump and his campaign.

"I don't think any summary of it or talk about it on a show like this can entirely do it justice," he said. "I really think people need to spend the time to, if only read the executive summary of it, but to actually look at the document and ask yourself: Is this okay?"





JOE SCARBOROUGH: Why don't we move beyond Barr because he's made himself really irrelevant to the discussion and to history. He's now a hack of Donald Trump and that is how history will paint him. Let's talk about the Mueller report, what we know about it so far. There are still redacted parts that need to be unredacted. But talk about the Mueller report, what you saw in it, what stood out and what Congress has to work with now moving forward.

BENJAMIN WITTES: So there are still redactions and they are less substantial than pop believed theyeople believed they would be. We actually do know what bob mueller said and he created a mammoth record on two front.

The first of course is the Russia investigation itself, where, as you guys have been talking about, I mean, he did not find prosecutable conspiracy beyond that which he had already found, which was of course substantial. But he did detail more than a hundred pages -- it's literally more than a hundred pages of contacts, probes, recruitment efforts by Russians toward people associated with the trump organize and campaign, and these from his business to the campaign itself. And, you know, I think there's a legitimate claim whenever a criminal investigation closes, hey, the criminal investigation is over but this material as a factual matter is now part of history and part of the political assessment and the fitness assessment of Donald Trump.

The second area, which is probably more immediate because it deals more with Trump's personal conduct and less with the people around him, is this unbelievable record that Mueller created on obstruction. And I don't think any summary of it or talk about it on a show like this can entirely do it justice. I really think people need to spend the time to, if only read the executive summary of it but to actually look at the document and ask yourself is this okay? Is it okay to have a president who interacts with the law enforcement and intelligence apparatus of the country, his own staff with respect to those communities and the law itself in the fashion in which in is depicting the president doing. This is conduct as president, in his capacity as president and I do think it will have a very long tail. I don't know how the political system is going to react to it. I do think it will have a very long tail in terms of the way people understand who this man is.

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