Presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) joins MSNBC's Hardball with host Chris Matthews to talk about 2020, Julian Assange's arrest, and more. Gabbard called Assange's arrest a blow to transparency and the free press.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry. They all supported the Iraq War. They all did it. They haven't apologized that I know about it. They all started that stupid war. Why? Why do smart people back a stupid war, and they did?
REP. TULSI GABBARD (D-HI), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's unfortunate to see how the foreign policy establishment in Washington, the military industrial complex, so often goes and wages these regime change wars under the guise of humanitarianism. Saying we're going to go in and try to help people in these countries when in fact every single time what we see is these regime change wars that our country leads ends up increasing the suffering of people in those countries, increasing the devastation and as we've seen in the Middle East and in countries like Iraq, Libya, and Syria are regime changes wars that have made our country less safe by strengthing terrorist groups like ISIS and al Qaeda.
The real threat that we're facing, Chris, this is an existential threat with this heightening of tensions between the United States and countries like Russia and China. Nuclearly-armed countries that have propelled us into this new Cold War.