Glenn Greenwald called out the media for not apologizing for "lying to people" and being wrong in their years covering the Trump-Russian collusion investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller. He called on top primetime cable hosts to go before cameras, hang their head in shame and apologize.
"It was continuously on MSNBC which, let me just say, should have their top posts on primetime, go before the cameras and hang their head in shame, and apologize for lying to people for three straight years exploiting their fears to great profit," Greenwald told Carlson. "These are people who are on the verge of losing their jobs. That whole network was about to collapse, this whole scam saved them."
Greenwald said cable news channels like MSNBC and CNN are like State TV or "CIA TV" for hiring former intelligence officials like former CIA Director John Brennan (MSNBC) and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (CNN) to analyze the investigation.
"Not only did MSNBC and CNN use those people as their sources, they hired them as their news analyst," Greenwald said Monday. "So if you turn on CNN or MSNBC, it was basically state TV. It was CIA TV. Three weeks ago, Tucker, three weeks ago, John Brennan was on MSNBC, and he said that he strongly believes that Robert Miller is going to indict members of the Trump family, either before or after March 15 because he's too noble to use the Ides of March for having conspired with Russia."
TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Trace Gallagher, thanks very much for that. Well, it was a rare person who didn't accept the underlying assumptions of the Russia story at face value here in the Washington press corps. Internet founder, Glenn Greenwald was one of those who did not.
From the very beginning he questioned the theory, he ultimately concluded it was a sham investigation with no evidence to support it. For that, he was roundly attacked. By the way, we should say that Glenn Greenwald was when last we checked, the liberal party wouldn't vote for Trump at gunpoint, but he was still attacked roundly, by virtually everyone on the left.
Howard Dean called him a possible Russian agent, but he did not seem to care and persisted. And of course, he has just been vindicated.
Glenn Greenwald joins us tonight. So I think before it slips from collective memory, we should just restate once again, that you a liberal, were denounced as a Russian agent by other liberals. What was that like?
GLENN GREENWALD, CO-FOUNDING EDITOR, THE INTERCEPT: I mean, it was exactly what you would expect it to be. And I mean, it wasn't just Howard Dean, it was continuously on MSNBC which, let me just say, should have their top posts on primetime, go before the cameras and hang their head in shame, and apologize for lying to people for three straight years exploiting their fears to great profit. These are people who are on the verge of losing their jobs. That whole network was about to collapse, this whole scam saved them.
And not only did they constantly feed people for three straight years, total disinformation, they did it on purpose, Tucker. And the proof of that is that unlike you, who has been criticized and a lot of different ways by the left, some of which I agree with, and we talked about before, the first time I ever watched your show, you had on Adam Schiff, the leading Democrat to talk about on your set for 12 straight minutes collusion so that your audience could hear the other side of the story.
MSNBC did the exact opposite. There was a whole slew not just me of left wing journalist with very high journalistic credentials far more than anyone on that network like Matt Taibbi and Jeremy Scahill and many others, including myself who were banned from the network because they wanted their audience not to know that anybody was questioning or expressing skepticism about the lies and the scam they were selling because it was so profitable. They did it on purpose.
It was a total fraud that they perpetrated on their audience. And to the extent that they talked about this at all, it was to call us agents of the Russian government to defame us as traders and to lie about us continuously to their audience. And there is still no accountability. They still won't put us on their airwaves. They still won't apologize and they're still lying to their audience. They don't want their audience to know what they did to them for three straight years on purpose.
It's just -- it's unbelievable when you when you put it that way. One of the things that you've been, I think particularly, acute on and virtually nobody else has said this is those channel, both MSNBC and CNN, have hired and promoted a seat series of retired Intel officials -- Jim Comey, John Brennan -- and they come on and they basically parrot a certain set of talking points but with the imprimatur of the agencies, they once ran. What effect does this have would you say an American society?
GREENWALD: It is completely corrupted journalism. The whole point of what we were supposed to learn from the debacle of WMDs and the Iraq War, which by the way, this network that we're on was one of the leaders of, was the fact that we were not supposed to trust intelligence agencies, when they say things without evidence.
And not only did MSNBC and CNN use those people as their sources, they hired them as their news analyst. So if you turn on CNN or MSNBC, it was basically state TV. It was CIA TV. Three weeks ago, Tucker, three weeks ago, John Brennan was on MSNBC, and he said that he strongly believes that Robert Miller is going to indict members of the Trump family, either before or after March 15 because he's too noble to use the Ides of March for having conspired with Russia.
They kept all dissent off the air. They turned themselves only into the spokes people of the people they are supposed to be investigating and scrutinizing which is the intelligence community and the military officials, who now are their colleagues, who now report the news. You have government officials who spent their whole careers in the Pentagon and in the CIA, they are disinformation agents, who now work at CNN and MSNBC, shaping what their news is. And that's why these channels turned into disinformation campaigns, because those are the people that they hire, the people they're supposed to be serving as watchdogs over the people who are neo-cons, the people who glide the country into war through WDMs, not only did they have no accountability, they got rewarded by becoming the stewards of these networks, and they lie to millions of people for three straight years and huge amounts of accountability is needed.
CARLSON: So in the last minute, we have make me feel better, I'm thinking that there will be no repercussions and that this cycle of deceit and disaster will continue. Do you disagree? Do you think anyone will be held accountable for this hoax?
GREENWALD: I mean, in one way, they can't have accountability because Rachel Maddow who gets $10 million a year. She's a huge corporate brand and she's a big celebrity among liberals. So they're going to keep her on the air. But I think that that they went so far overboard in deceiving and lying to people for so long.
I watched Ken Delaney and the NBC reporter who is basically the CIA spokesman on Twitter say, "Look, this is the end of the game Trump won. There's no collusion," and huge numbers of people on Twitter that follow NBC were genuinely confused. They were saying, "Wait a minute, you were telling us for three years all of this was a given that it was a slam dunk that it was just a matter of time when it would happen." I think they've completely lost credibility and faith, even among their own followers who are now confused and disoriented. And they deserve all the scorn and all the loss of faith and credibility that they're going to get. They are the reason why people don't trust journalism,
CARLSON: Exactly. Glenn Greenwald, you are one of the people who was vindicated by this. So congratulations for doing your job as you're supposed to be doing it. I appreciate it. Good to see you.