Rep. Jim Jordan: Cohen's Testimony That He Never Visited Prague "Undermines" Basic Claims Of The Steele Dossier

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NBC's "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd debates Rep. Jim Jordan, the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, about Michael Cohen's claims in Wednesday's public hearing. Jordan said Cohen is a liar but points out that one thing Cohen said, that he has never been to Prague, undermines one of the basic claims of the infamous Steele dossier, which originally alleged ties between Trump and Russia.

The dossier, compiled to detail alleged efforts by Russia to coordinate with the Trump campaign, says Cohen met with Russian operatives in Prague in 2016.

"He said that, and that’s something you can verify. You can look at passports, you can look at travel," Jordan said when asked if he believes Cohen's claim that he has never been to Prague.





"So that undermines this whole dossier, which remember, was the basis for this whole crazy investigation to begin with," Jordan added.

NBC host Chuck Todd pushed back on Jordan's claims, saying: "That isn’t the facts. … It is something that you believe, but it has not been proven."

"It's a big fact," Jordan replied. "It's the lead thing they took to the FISA court to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign that was paid for by the Clinton campaign. You know that's the case."

"Never forget what happened there," Jordan added. "The Clinton campaign paid the law firm Perkins-Coie, who hired Fusion GPS, who hired a foreigner. And what did that foreigner do? He talked to a couple of Russians... to put this dossier together that our FBI used to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign."

CHUCK TODD, NBC: Do you believe [Michael Cohen] has never been to Prague?

REP. JIM JORDAN: He said that. That's something you can verify. You can take a look at passports, you can look at travel. So that undermines this whole [Steele] dossier which, remember, was the basis for this whole crazy investigation to begin with.

CHUCK TODD: That's not -- I mean, that isn't the facts.

JIM JORDAN: It's a big fact. We have had this debate before.

CHUCK TODD: It's something that you believe, but it has not been proven.

JIM JORDAN: It's the lead thing they took to the FISA court to get the warrant to go spy on the Trump campaign that was paid for by the Clinton campaign. You know that's the case.

CHUCK TODD: When you got these papers released to the public you found out that that wasn't the truth.

JIM JORDAN: Yes, it is, and they didn't tell the court that the Clinton campaign paid -- never forget what happened there: The Clinton campaign paid the law firm Perkins-Coie, who hired Fusion GPS, who hired a foreigner. And what did that foreigner do? He talked to a couple of Russians.

CHUCK TODD: You left out the Republican donor who began the whole thing.

JIM JORDAN: To put this dossier together that our FBI used to get the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

CHUCK TODD: Why do you not want this investigation concluded by Robert Mueller?

JIM JORDAN: I want it concluded. I want it over with.

CHUCK TODD: But you continue to question and interfere with it so how is it ever going to end if you question and interfere with it?

JIM JORDAN: I'm not questioning or interfering with it. It can be public, the president said he wants it to continue, he allowed it to continue. It is going to continue. At some point will there will be some investigation and the attorney general will follow the law and release what he wants to release or maybe release the whole thing. That's going to happen, we all know that.

CHUCK TODD: Do you want it all completely released? Donald Trump Jr. does.

JIM JORDAN: I'm open to whatever the attorney general decides. He should follow the law and regulations. If they release it all -- I tend to think we should err on the side of transparency. I've been for that all along. I want the FISA applications released, the 302's from Bruce Ohr, all that information released so the American people can know exactly what happened when they launched this thing.

CHUCK TODD: Do you believe the Russians interfered with the 2016 election?

JIM JORDAN: Everyone said they thought they were trying to impact the election.

CHUCK TODD: Do you believe it?

JIM JORDAN: Yeah, I mean, of course, that's what the intelligence community has told us, but there is --

CHUCK TODD: Do you believe they did it to try to help Donald Trump win?

JIM JORDAN: Who knows why they did it, but there is zero evidence there was collusion or coordination.

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