Chris Wallace to Lindsey Graham: What About Kavanaugh Hearing Got So Under Your Skin?



WALLACE: -- you have seemed angry. I guess I’m questioning, what has gotten so much under your skin? I wanted to take a look at Lindsey Graham over the last couple of weeks. Here you are.


GRAHAM: This is the most unethical sham since I’ve been in politics.

I thought she was handled respectfully. I thought Kavanaugh was treated like crap.


Yes. Well, boo yourselves.



WALLACE: So, why are -- well, now you look -- you seem happy, but why have you been an unhappy warrior these couple of weeks?

WALLACE: I’m happy because the effort to humiliate and railroad a man I’ve known for 20 years who’s never been banned from a mall, unlike Roy Moore, failed. If I am that those who try to destroy his life fell short, I’m glad that those who try to overturn the rule of law and replace it with mob rule lost.

I’ve never been more pissed in my life. I voted for Sotomayor and Kagan. I would never done this to them. This is character assassination. This is wanting power too much.

And to the extent that I came to the age of this good aide and help defeat this debacle, I am happy as a clam.

WALLACE: All right. Well, let me tell you something that may not make you happy I bring it up because it appears that the Kavanaugh confirmation is not going to end this fight. Democratic Congressman Jerry Nadler --


WALLACE: -- of New York who would if the Democrats take the House become the House Judiciary chairman is already talked about launching an investigation into alleged misconduct by Kavanaugh. Nancy Pelosi says she wants to see the FBI interviews and the second background check.

It doesn't sound like this is going to end.

GRAHAM: Well, we’ll know in November of that make sense. I hope everyone running for the House in these purple districts will be asked the question, do you support impeaching Judge Kavanaugh based on five allegations, none of which could be corroborated? Do you want an outcome so badly that you would basically turn the law upside down?

All I can say is that this is going to the streets at the ballot box. I’m going to -- I’ve never campaigned against a colleague in my life. That's about to change. I’m going to go throughout this country and let people in these, you know, purple states, red states where Trump won, know what I thought, know what I think about this process.

WALLACE: Now, we were talking before we came on the air and I see that you have a list of all the people that the president has said or on the list for potential nominees.


WALLACE: What’s your point?

GRAHAM: So, here's my point. This is a list that was compiled in November, but he actually put it out during the campaign. There’s twenty-something people on this list. I’m asking Chuck Schumer, name five, name three, name one that would be okay with you.

Brett Kavanaugh was a mainstream judge. I would've chosen if I had been president. Bush supported him. Everybody running for president on our side believed that Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch were outstanding conservative jurists. The other side wants to cancel the election.

So, Chuck, if you want someone new? Look at this list and see anybody you agree to but what you want to do, Senator Schumer, is to overturn the election and you pick the judges.

We’re not going to let you pick the judges. If you want to pick judges, then you need to win the White House. When Obama won that, I voted for two judges that he picked.

So, Chuck Schumer, name one person on this list you think is acceptable.

WALLACE: There was a tough column in "The New York Times" today that attacks you. I want to some of it up. Frank Bruni writes: I can’t think of another Republican whose journey from anti-Trump outrage to pro-Trump obsequiousness was quite so illogical or half as sad. And he suggests that you are auditioning to replace Jeff Sessions as attorney general.

Your response, sir?

GRAHAM: Frank, you don't know what you're talking about. In your world, Frank, it's a noble cause to destroy a judicial candidate who is conservative, whether it’d be Thomas, Alito, Bork, now Kavanaugh.

I am bipartisan when it makes sense. I try to have a good disposition because I like my job. But don't mistake that I don't care about the conservative cause. So, if I made you upset because I would not legitimize McCarthyism, then good, and I think I can survive in South Carolina.

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