Chuck Todd to Rudy Giuliani: You Don't Really Know What McGahn Told Mueller?

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'Meet the Press' host Chuck Todd asks Trump legal team member Rudy Giuliani about reports that White House Counsel Don McGahn is cooperating with special counsel Mueller.

TODD: Let me go back to the core part of the investigation, which is do you believe that somebody stole emails from John Podesta and the DNC and leaked them to WikiLeaks? That factually happened, right? Do you believe that that happened, that crime happened?



GIULIANI: Well, I believe that somebody got them and they didn’t know that those emails were gotten and I’m almost certain from the reports that I’ve read that it’s hacking and it looks like it’s pretty clear that it was Russians.

TODD: So it’s important to you -

GIULIANI: Beyond that, beyond that --

TODD: But it’s important to Mr. Mueller get to the bottom of that, no?

GIULIANI: Of course, but he’s had months to get to the bottom of it. He’s got 1.4 million documents, he’s got at least 32 witnesses in which we didn’t raise executive privilege.

And in the case of Mr. McGahn --

TODD: Yes.

GIULIANI: -- we had even a better case. You could have had attorney-client privilege.

So, the president encouraged him to testify, is happy that he did --

TODD: Yes.

GIULIANI: -- is quite secure that there is nothing in the testimony that will hurt the president. And John Dowd told you that when he said he was a strong witness for the president.

So, I believe this is a -- this is a desperate special counsel who leaked this to "The New York Times", illegally, I might add and, in fact --

TODD: Do you have any evidence of this? Do you have any evidence that he leaked this to "The New York Times"?

GIULIANI: The only other one that could’ve done it was McGahn. I mean, I didn’t leak it to "The Times" and Jay Sekulow didn’t leak it to "The Times". The president sure as heck didn’t, so who could it be?

It could be McGahn, and McGahn’s not doing it. And he would’ve done it a long time ago if he was going to do it.

They’re down to desperation time. They have to write a report and they don’t have a single bit of evidence. Even Brennan said an extraordinary --

TODD: But aren’t you, let me ask you this, Mr. Mayor, I want to play -- aren’t you and the president to blame for the delay in the Mueller report?

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