Rudy Giuliani, attorney for President Donald Trump, said fired FBI agent Peter Strzok "has played a much bigger role in this than a lot of the media wants to admit" in an interview with Sean Hannity on the Monday broadcast of his FOX News show.
He also talked about FISA abuse and former CIA Director John Brennan's role in the Russian collusion investigation.
"He has played a much bigger role in this than a lot of the media wants to admit," Giuliani said of Strzok. "First of all, he was there at the very beginning. He wrote all the initial documents justifying this investigation. He ran it for 11 months. He conducted the critical interview with Flynn with a very strange situation where Flynn pled guilty to a lie that the FBI said he didn’t -- he wasn't guilty of, go figure that out. "
"He's the one who was carrying the dossier and using the dossier to justify the FISA wires. That has to be all unraveled. There is no doubt there are four false affidavits filed with the FISA court," the former NYC mayor said.
Giuliani called the Clinton probe a "fixed investigation" and said special counsel Robert Mueller and Strzok are puppets for the "quarterback" of all of this, former CIA director John Brennan.
"Strzok, he’s a bit of a puppet. There's Mueller, he's a puppet," Giuliani said.
"I’m going to tell you who was the quarterback for all of this," he also said.
"I have a funny feeling you are about to drop a bomb on me. Go ahead," Hannity said to the attorney.
"The guy running it is Brennan," Giuliani revealed.
Giuliani called the affidavit by John Brennan false and demanded he face a grand jury.
"Brennan took an affidavit, a dossier that unless he's the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever existed, although he never did much intelligence work. It's false. You can look at it and laugh at it," Giuliani said.
"And he should be in front of a grand jury," he also said.
"That led to the request for the investigation," he explained. "So, he takes a false affidavit, a false dossier, he gets the senators involved, and a couple of Republican Senators, and they demand an investigation. A totally phony investigation. Now, why can't we get an investigation when there are clear facts showing possible violations of the law?"
Giuliani called for an independent counsel to "investigate the investigators."
From Monday's Hannity:
SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS: Well, that's really how they are portraying it. But more seriously, when we talk about Strzok and Comey and McCabe and Page, and all of these other people in the FBI and the DOJ at the highest levels, do you see crimes?
RUDY GIULIANI, PERSONAL ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Oh, absolutely. I just told you one. The perjury on the affidavit.
I was telling about Hillary crimes a year before Comey outlined them all. I’m pretty good at picking out crimes.
HANNITY: How did she get off scot-free and all of this?
GIULIANI: She got off because of that fixed investigation, a totally phony, fixed investigation --
HANNITY: Could she still be indicted?
GIULIANI: -- run by Peter Strzok -- who then turns around, the dossier is obtained on the day that they dropped the case against Trump -- against Hillary. So, that case gets dropped, so they had to even up the score and go after Trump.
HANNITY: The next day?
GIULIANI: The next day. Now, the reality is I’m going to tell you. And we don't have the time to go into it, so we can do it later. I’m going to tell you who was the quarterback for all of this.
It isn’t just Strzok. He’s a bit of a puppet. There's Mueller, he's a puppet.
The people working for him are -- some of them are really --
HANNITY: I have a funny feeling you are about to drop a bomb on me. Go ahead.
GIULIANI: The guy running it is Brennan. And he should be in front of a grand jury.
HANNITY: It is Brennan, former CIA director.
GIULIANI: Brennan took an affidavit, a dossier that unless --
HANNITY: He gave it to Harry Reid.
GIULIANI: Unless he's the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever existed, although he never did much intelligence work. It's false. You can look at it and laugh at it.
He peddled it to Harry Reid.
HANNITY: And media.
GIULIANI: That led to the request for the investigation. So, he takes a false affidavit, a false dossier, he gets the senators involved, and a couple of Republican senators, and they demand an investigation. A totally phony investigation.
Now, why can't we get an investigation when there are clear facts showing possible violations of the law? Even in the --
HANNITY: Why can’t we?
GIULIANI: Even in the order appointing Mueller, which is completely illegitimate, they don't point out any crime. You have to point out a crime under the independent counsel regulations. They don't point it. We have lots of crimes and we can’t get -- we can't get Sessions to move and appoint an independent counsel.
He's -- look, he’s recused from it. He’s recused from everything. And Rosenstein is too much involved in it, and there are possible witnesses.
HANNITY: Rosenstein signed the last FISA warrant. And --
GIULIANI: Well, that's why he's possible witness and possible anything else.
HANNITY: Mr. Mayor, great to see you.
HANNITY: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
GIULIANI: Independent counsel to investigate the investigators.