Former NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's new personal attorney, says the Trump legal team is not worried about former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen "flipping" because "he doesn’t have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself."
"The man is an honest, honorable lawyer and despite the -- the Times article today, which is totally baseless as far as I can tell," Giuliani said, referring to the Saturday New York Times> article on How Michael Cohen, Trump’s Fixer, Built a Shadowy Business Empire.
STEPHANOPOULOS: They had dinner in March, a phone call two weeks ago, any other communication and are you sure they didn’t discuss the Stormy Daniels payment during these conversations?
GIULIANI: I don’t think it’s a good idea for the two of them to talk right now, eventually they can. They are very good friends, I kind of miss Michael’s advice, I think Jay does also.
But right now, the best thing to do is through the lawyers. We have a very good relationship with his two lawyers, and we’re going to continue to -- to -- to do that, and that has worked out for us.
If they had conversations before this, no harm, again that part of the case, George, I am very comfortable, has gone. I got to focus my attention on the -- on the Mueller -- on the Mueller part.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you concerned at all that Michael Cohen’s going to cooperate with prosecutors?
GIULIANI: No I expect that he is going to cooperate with them. I don’t think they’ll be happy with it because he doesn’t have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself.
The man is an honest, honorable lawyer and despite the -- the Times article today, which is totally baseless as far as I can tell. But you know, that’s his lawyer’s issue where they had to help, my issue is getting up to speed on the facts here. I’m about halfway there.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And has the president or any member of the president’s team ever suggested to Michael Cohen in any way that the president would pardon him if he were indicted or (inaudible)?
GIULIANI: That -- that -- that -- we -- Jay and I have made it clear, and -- and -- and Michael’s lawyers all know that that obviously is not on the table. That’s not a decision to be made now, there’s no reason to pardon anybody now.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So it hasn’t been discussed?
GIULIANI: It has not been discussed, and -- and would not be discussed. Does the president have the unfettered power as President Clinton had, President Reagan? I used to -- I -- (inaudible) the pardon attorney worked for me with President Reagan. He gave out 900 pardons, far fewer than -- than Obama or -- or President Trump.
I’m -- I’m a big believer in the pardon power. There are people I wanted to see get pardons like Michael Milken, who I prosecuted. But right now, pardons would be a bit -- they wouldn’t be illegal to talk about, they’d be kind of confusing.