Joe Rogan (Joe Rogan Experience) and Jimmy Dore (The Jimmy Dore Show) talk about Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump.
JIMMY DORE: Barack Obama's entire cabinet came from an email from CitiGroup, so people trying to say that somehow corruption started on Jan. 20, 2017 are fooling themselves. And that is what I am fighting against on my show.
JOE ROGAN: And you're one of the only people who are doing that, one of the only people who are online that you're not obligated to shill for the left, you're not doing it. But everybody else seems to be... There are so few that are calling out people in the Democratic Party for what is really going on. I was infuriated when people that I knew, that I am friends with, try to tell me that Hillary Clinton was a good choice, that she is the sane choice. Look, I don't know if she's murdered people, but I know that I'm worried she's murdered people. That's a real concern. This Seth Rich shit?
JIMMY DORE: You don't even have to go there. There are so many other things that we know for a fact.
JOE ROGAN: The Clinton Foundation, for instance.
JIMMY DORE: I'm old enough to remember the Iraq War, when voting for the Iraq War was a disqualifier in a Democratic primary. That's where I'm from. That's why she lost to Barack Obama the first time she ran. Now Joy Behar says that was a long time ago, forget about it. Why don't you go tell that to a soldier's mother. Why don't you go tell that to someone whose kid died in an illegal war. Why don't you go tell that to a couple hundred thousand Iraqis who are dead. Get over it, it was a long time ago!
I remember also: Bill Clinton was no friend to the working man. He started the demise of this country. Ronald Reagan scared the shit out of the Democrats so much that they decided to become like them. What Bill Clinton did was get in bed with Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, big pharma, and the Koch brothers. He started a thing called the Democratic Leadership Council with Al Gore. They had the Koch brothers on the Democratic Leadership Council.
They completely turned their backs on the working man. And what happens when you have two parties who are in bed with management? You get Donald Trump. That's exactly what happened, they gutted welfare at the same time they exploded the prison population, called black kids superpredators, at the same time they signed NAFTA. And then they deregulated Wall Street, which crashed the economy within ten years. That's what Democrats did. Democrats did shit Ronald Reagan could only dream about. George Bush couldn't pass NAFTA, it took Bill Clinton to do it. Bill Clinton gave the cover to the corporate Democrats to go along with it. So that was the beginning of the end for the working class in America.
I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton, and that is why a lot of people on the left came after me.
JOE ROGAN: It was confusing to me that you were saying, 'If you want to vote for a real progressive, what about Jill Stein?'
JIMMY DORE: Here's a program you actually agree with: The Green New Deal...
So we all know for a fact because of the WikiLeaks that Hillary Clinton had a thing called the Pied Piper Strategy, which was she told her minions in the press, please prop up Donald Trump. Why did she want Donald Trump to be propped up? She wanted to run against Donald Trump, because she knew she was so repulsive that she needed someone who was more repulsive than her. Turns out that was a bad calculation. It was called the Pied Piper Strategy, and that's why when you turned on [MSNBC's] Chris Hayes, he was showing Donald Trump's empty podium for an hour instead of Bernie Sanders, and then he wags his fingers at people with no money and no power for not voting for a corporatist warmonger like Hillary Clinton.
Why do you think the people in Michigan wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton? maybe because she put half of them in prison, because she passed NAFTA, and Barack Obama was trying to sell TPP at the top of his lungs at the same time Hillary Clinton was trying to get working people to vote for her. They knew what was going on.
That's why half the country doesn't vote. But you're going to wag your finger at the people who actually do vote, who come out and vote their conscience, and they don't prop up evil. You know what voting for the lesser of two evils gets you? Donald f*cking Trump...
We have two pro-war parties, and that is that. There is not an opposition party. They oppose Trump on the most ridiculous bullshit. They just voted to increase an extra $160 billion to go to the war machine. $160 billion. Remember, Bernie Sanders wanted to pay for free college, which was around $65 billion, and everybody said he was crazy, how are you going to pay for that? They just did that in the blink of an eye, $160 billion to a war machine that we don't have an enemy to fight.
Russia spends $65 billion per year on their military, they're a paper tiger. We've got no enemies out there, we have to keep inventing them. The last enemy they invented was ISIS. We're supposed to shit our pants over them because they have kitchen knives. They'll cut your head off with a kitchen knife. That's what I'm supposed to be afraid of? What the f*ck? It is amazing how they can keep us scared to keep the perpetual war going. This is an Orwellian nightmare.
The Democrats right now should be screaming about the Pentagon budget, but they're not screaming about it because they're complicit. They're in it. and that is what is wrong with this country. That is why we can't have nice things.
When people say we're broke and we can't afford stuff, they don't mean we can't afford trillion dollar wars, trillion dollar bank bailouts, trillion dollar oil subsidies, and prison construction, that's not what they mean. They mean we can't afford healthcare or education or roads or bridges or firemen or libraries. They mean we can't afford anything that makes your life better.
Whenever they need bombs, they've got 'em.
We're broke for Social Security, we're broke for Medicare. How about for bombs? We've got bomb money. We keep it right next to our drinking money...
We don't have to spend any more money. We could actually spend less money. We don't have to spend $750 billion a year on a military that is bloated. We have a thousand bases around the world. We don't even know how many bases there are, because lots of them are secret.
JOE ROGAN: What do you say to the argument that we need them to stay safe?
JIMMY DORE: It is not true!
... We invented ISIS. We invented al Qaeda.
JOE ROGAN: We certainly aided in their development.
JIMMY DORE: We directly funded them. Directly... Osama bin Laden was our guy. He was an anti-Russian terrorist-- freedom fighter. And then all of a sudden they didn't need him anymore. We're still in Afghanistan 17 years later. Three more years, the war gets a gold watch!
There is no exit strategy, there never was an exit strategy. They just announced we're going to be permanently in Syria.