CNN's Don Lemon and Franklin Graham clashed on Donald Trump's behavior with women and Bill Clinton's behavior with women on Tuesday's edition of CNN Tonight.
LEMON: Yes, for the sake of time, it's not creeping. But I want to move on to other issues, because I have you here to talk character issues as well, because it's important, especially with what’s going on with the president.
I want to read. This is from Michael Gershon. He’s a former speechwriter from George W. Bush. He’s an evangelical and he wrote an editorial in "The Washington Post" just today.
And he said, Reverend, some Christian leaders are surrendering the idea that character matters in public life in direct exchange for political benefits for Christians themselves. It is a political maneuver indistinguishable from those performed by business or union lobbyists every day.
Why do you think evangelicals were so willing to call out say Bill Clinton's behavior but fought for President Trump.
GRAHAM: I think that's a very good question, Don. And I appreciate that.
The difference is what happened with Bill Clinton, he did this while he was in office and that's the difference. And what Kennedy did, the affairs he had was while he was in office. The affairs that Johnson had were while he was in office.
These alleged affairs, they're alleged with Trump, didn't happen while he was in office. This happened 11, 12, 13, 14 years ago. And so, I think there is a big difference and not that we give anybody a pass, but we have to look at the timeline and that was before he was in office.
And I think the president has changed quite a bit in the last 11 years. At least I had seen that --
LEMON: Let’s say that because --
GRAHAM: -- there is a maturing of the president.
LEMON: OK. Have you read his Twitter account? Because, listen, a number of different things here. The -- he admitted to was the "Access Hollywood" tape, right? That happened. It came out.
You were already supporting him when that came out. You didn't take your support away.
FRANKLIN: But I didn't support that, Don. I didn't support that.
LEMON: But you are saying in one voice that you didn't support that but you are still supporting. And then also, the payout to the porn star, that was in 2016.
That wasn't 11 years ago. That's now.
He threatened nuclear war with Korea, that’s now.
FRANKLIN: That's when the story came out.
LEMON: He calls for a ban in religions entering the country. That's now.
He has 15 accusers. Some of them said it was shorter than a long time ago as you said.
He started a fight with a Gold Star family. He started a fight with Gold Star widows. He fights with people on Twitter. He uses the word s-hole about certain countries.
That's all in the current timing now. That's not from years ago. So, that argument that he has changed or he has somehow evolved, that just doesn't stand. Most people don't see that.
GRAHAM: Well, no, but the affairs that Clinton had were while he was in the Oval Office, Johnson, Kennedy. The same thing.
LEMON: You are saying the only thing that matters is an affair?
GRAHAM: No. No. That's what you spend a lot of time on, Don, on the media focusing on this.
But you take his like his rough language, there are a lot of presidents that have had rough language and a lot of these things that have been accused of the president, I am not sure are true. He says he didn't do it. And the others that said he didn't do it.