Baier to Warren: If You Call It Border Security And Not A Wall, Is There A Deal Dems Can Make With Trump?

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Democratic Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Mark Warner (D-VA) appeared on Wednesday's Special Report with Bret Baier to talk about the leadership and face of the Democratic party, the Republican tax break, the debt and deficit, Sen. Rand Paul's possible filibuster of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act, DACA and immigration, and The Wall.

When Warren was told that Eversource, a major utility company in her state of Massachusetts, would be lowering electricity rates for consumers her response was, "Good for them, I'm delighted to hear it."

Baier also spoke to Warren about making a deal on DACA, immigration, border security and The Wall with the Trump administration.





"You know, Senator Warren, on DACA, if you – if you characterize it as border security and don’t call it a wall, is there a deal that can be made with Democrats and this administration?" Baier asked.

"Let’s start with the heart of what it’s about, America made a promise to these young people, and that is that if they would come out of the shadows, that they would be vetted, that they would then have a chance to work in the United States, to go to school in the United States, to join our military, and that’s what, about 97 percent of them have done," Warren said.

"And then Donald Trump says that promise is no good anymore, now Congress has got to find a way to stand this back up, my view of this, is America honors its promise," she said. "We do not deport 800,000 young people from the only home they have ever known."

"Even if it means shutting down the government and having this battle if there’s a win over border security or calling it a wall?" Baier pressed.

"I don’t want to see any of that come to pass, what I want to see is America honor its promises, and I recognize we’re sitting down right now, in negotiations trying to figure out who an get a little here who can give a little there, but at the end of the day, the way I see this, is we cannot say to 800,000 young people who right now are contributing to America, who right now, we’re hearing from their employers saying don’t get rid of these people, these are people we need in our economy," she said.

"We cannot say to them you will be deported from America," Warren declared.

Transcript, via FOX News:

BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS HOST: A pair of Democratic Senators going after credit monitoring companies following last year’s massive data breach at Equifax. Senators Elizabeth Warren and Mark Warner are here tonight to talk about what they’re trying to accomplish. Senators, thanks for joining me.

SEN. MARK WARNER, D-VA: Thank you, Bret.

SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN, D-MASS.: Thank you.

BAIER: Talk about this legislation and what specifically it does.

WARREN: Well, so you remember last fall when Equifax announced that they had managed to not take enough care of consumers’ data and more than half of all American’s had had their privacy breached. So their Social Security numbers, their credit card numbers, their phone numbers, their addresses are all out there in the hands of thieves. And here’s the deal, it actually turns out that Equifax may actually make money off the breach.

Now, Mark and I thought that was really a bad deal. And so, we decided to put together some legislation that says, when one of these credit reporting companies lets your data get stolen like that they’re going to have to pay a substantial, automatic penalty for it. And the people whose data get lost are actually going to get some money from that.

WARNER: And what we found --

BAIER: So, Senator Warner, let me just ask this. There are not a lot of defenders of Equifax, I mean, both sides of the aisle. It’s not a black hat that’s easy to defend but what do you say to the people that say that this legislation is really punitive and there are a lot companies who had data breaches over the past year?

WARNER: Well, Bret, this is not the first time one of the credit reporting agencies have had this kind of breach. We’ve had ChoicePoint, Experian and what’s particularly different about this relationship is none of us (ph) -- I was one of the victims of the breach -- none of us offered our data to any of these credit reporting agencies, we have a no direct customer relationship.

We think in a world where data is going to become more and more taken in by companies, particularly when you’re dealing with something as important as your credit history, there needs to a stricter sense of liability. --

BAIER: There -- so --

WARNER: -- Quite honestly, we think there’s going to be a lot of bipartisan support for this.

WARREN: Understand this is not a big regulatory approach. We’re not saying the government’s going (ph) to say you’ve got to go this way, and then you’ve got to turn this way, and then you’ve got to take three steps and turn this way again. Not saying that at all. We’re saying take the appropriate steps because if you don’t take the appropriate steps, you’re going to have to pay a penalty.

BAIER: I want to ask you a couple other things, --

BAIER: -- broad topics. I look at the two of you standing together and I see, kind of, two sides of the Democratic Party. Who do you think --

WARNER: And --

BAIER: -- is the --

WARNER: -- areas where we actually agree on (ph) --

BAIER: Yes, yes, yes. Who do you think is the leader of the Democratic Party right now?

WARNER: I think what the Democratic Party has at this point is a broad base of leaders that range from very progressive to people who have been traditionally more pro-business. And we actually find ways to work together on the vast majority of issues. What does unite us though is the sense that everybody in this country ought to get a fair shot.

WARREN: The right question is, where is the energy in the Democratic Party? And I’ll tell you exactly where the energy is in the Democratic Party, it’s down at the grassroots. It’s down there person by person, family by family who say, “Wait a minute. I got a stake in how this government works --

BAIER: All right, let me give you a specific question.

WARREN: -- and I’m tired of a government that works at those at the top and doesn’t work for me.”

BAIER: So, Senator Warren, you said that the tax law was a giveaway, essentially, to billionaires --

WARREN: Yes.

BAIER: -- and giant corporations. So --

WARREN: Yes.

BAIER: -- if Democrats take control of Congress, would you repeal the tax law?

WARREN: Well, what we have to do is change it. You’ve got to take out the parts that are giant giveaways to big corporations that, right now, the Republicans plan for hardworking families to eventually pay for.

BAIER: Sure. But even if companies --

WARREN: -- that’s just fundamentally wrong.

BAIER: -- Senator, like Eversource in Massachusetts, the electricity company announcing that they’re going to give a big break to consumers.

WARREN: And good for them --

BAIER: So which ones do you take out of the list?

WARREN: Look, it is a trillion and a half (ph) dollars that Republicans gave away to billionaires and to giant corporations. And they expect hardworking families to just pick up the ticket on that.

WARREN: I want those breaks to go -- I want those breaks to go directly to hardworking families, not to a bunch of rich folks.

BAIER: OK. Would you agree with that, Senator Warner -- about companies?

WARNER: Here’s what I would say, one (ph), I actually think as somebody who’s been on your show a lot of times being concerned about the debt and deficit.

I think this bill is actually going to add about $2.2 trillion… That really disappoints me in terms of what we’re passing onto our kids.

BAIER: OK, Senator Warner –

WARNER: I want to – let me finish – mind I just finish this one point, Bret, I want – I do believe in – you know, Elizabeth may or not fully agree, but I think there are worse ways to bring back some of those profits that were caught offshore, but what we could have done in this (inaudible) if you want to bring those profits back, you’ve got to invest some of those profits in actually training up people who are making, say, less than $90 thousand a year.

We got to make sure that those communities that have been hit hard by trade (ph) to actually get some of the benefits, there’s no way we could have done this that would have been actually focused rather than the way it was rushed through with only one team.

BAIER: Obviously, the republicans point to the communities and the hard workers who are getting checks and seeing electric bills go down, but Senator Warner, the House is on the verge of passing this re-authorization of section 702 of FISA.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act, the National Security Agency says it’s crucial. The House can do it, it seems like Senator Paul is going to filibuster this, how do you – what do you do here?

How important is this?

WARNER: I think, as Vice Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, I think this provision is very important, number one, number two I think – I have not seen any evidence of abuse, but I would say, number 3, and this is very important, is that the bill that will come before the House and that I’ve signed off on a bipartisan way and a number of us in the Senate have, will include for the first time ever, a warrant (ph) provision is an FBI agent, for example, is trying to use the 702 information on a criminal case, and it will also make sure that the bureau in particular categorizes all the 702 inquiries.

So a year out from now, we’ll have a much clearer pattern for those folks on both sides of the aisle who may question this provision, we’re going to have more data to give them to show if there needs to be further.

BAIER: Yes, it’s just running out of time.

WARNER: Yes, it’s – we’re running out of time, and that’s why I think it’s important that it gets moved forward in the next couple weeks. We’ve got a lot that’s got to be dealt with in the next couple weeks.

Candidly, I wish we wouldn’t have (punted) so many of these issues like the full budget from September 30th from now January 20th.

BAIER: OK, Senator Warren, last – last thing.

WARREN: And as I understand it (ph), in children’s health insurance, community health, so we’ve got all these things that need to be taken for (inaudible)

BAIER: You know, Senator Warren, on DACA, if you – if you characterize it as border security and don’t call it a wall, is there a deal that can be made with Democrats and this administration?

WARREN: Let’s start with the heart of what it’s about, America made a promise to these young people, and that is that if they would come out of the shadows, that they would be vetted, that they would then have a chance to work in the United States, to go to school in the United States, to join our military, and that’s what, about 97 percent of them have done.

And then Donald Trump says that promise is no good anymore, now Congress has got to find a way to stand this back up, my view of this, is America honors its promise. We do not deport 800,000 young people from the only home they have ever known.

BAIER: Even if it means shutting down the government and having this battle if there’s a win over border security or calling it a wall?

WARREN: I – I don’t want to see any of that come to pass, what I want to see is America honor its promises, and I recognize (ph) we’re sitting down right now, in negotiations trying to figure out who an get a little here who can give a little there, but at the end of the day, the way I see this, is we cannot say to 800,000 young people who right now are contributing to America, who right now, we’re hearing from their employers saying don’t get rid of these people, these are people we need in our economy.

We cannot say to them you will be deported from America

BAIER: The clock is ticking here, Senators Warren and Warner, thanks for time.

WARNER: Thank you, Bret.

WARREN: Thank you.

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