MSNBC's Katy Tur interviewed Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff on the Monday broadcast of her show and grilled him on the feedback and response he has received from White House staffers who say they were misquoted or that he flat out lied about what they told him.
On FOX & Friends this morning, Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney, the man responsible for crafting the budget, said the quote attributed to him about Trump being too "scattershot to ever be much help" was "inaccurate."
"I talked to the guy for about half an hour, I remember talking to him in March. I think he put two sentences about me in the book, both of which were inaccurate," Mulvaney said.
"I hadn't heard that before. I want to say, that's completely ridiculous," Wolff responded.
"Tom Barrack is saying that he's misquoted. [Former Deputy Chief of Staff to Reince Priebus] Katie Walsh is saying she is misquoted. Are they all lying?" Tur asked the author.
"They are all lying," Wolff answered. "They are in a situation now where Donald Trump has come to think that this book is a mortal threat. I don't know if it is or it isn't but he certainly feels that way, and he is making demands on everybody. I know, I hear through the grapevine that Katie Walsh's job is at issue now, and -- which I regret. And even then, she's not really saying that I misquoted her. She's saying that she was quoting something like she was quoting Steve Bannon that [Trump]'s a child."
"Everyone says he is a child, in fact," Wolff emphasized.
Wolff said he understands the "panic" in Trump World because no one knew this book was coming and it caught them like "deer caught in the headlights."
Wolff said although he has tapes and evidence, when asked to produce them by Tur he said he would not release anything because "that's not what a journalist does."
"You've got tapes. Are you going to release the tapes?" Tur asked.
"No," he answered. "I'm going to work like every journalist. I have tapes. I have notes."
"But if people are questioning it, why not produce the evidence?" she asked again.
"Because that's not what journalists -- I'm not in your business, my evidence is the book, read the book. If it makes sense to you, if it strikes a chord, if it rings true, it is true," Wolff answered.
"Let's go, and address the idea of tapes. I have -- everything that I do has been specifically closely sourced. That's what we do, we take notes," Wolff stumbled.
"Would you show -- you're a reporter, would you open your notes to the world?" Wolff asked Tur.
"That's -- it's, you know, it's called work product. And that turns into a book," he added.
"I'm a writer. I'm literally a writer," he said. "This is an incredibly -- this is a written story. I've told a story. And just read it. If you don't think it's true, which 35% of the country is not going to think it's true, the Donald Trump 35% [supporters], they're not going to buy this."