Gruber To CNN: Republicans Want To Jam Through An Obamacare Replacement Bill

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Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber called Republicans hypocrites for complaining about the "unprecedented transparency" in the way the original Obamacare was presented and passed compared to how Republicans are handling the repeal and replace legislation. In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Gruber accused Republicans of "jamming" through the repeal and replace bill championed by Speaker Paul Ryan.

"When the Affordable Care Act was passed, it was done with unprecedented transparency," Gruber said. "There were hundreds of hearings and there were dozens of this congressional budget office course. Now, in the move of incredible hypocrisy, especially to me personally given the attacks that were landed on me, they wanted to talk about jamming through a bill without even having any hearings or any score from migrational budget office."

Gruber said Obamacare is working because it is "expanding Medicaid" and "encouraging" others to sign up.

"If they just allow the law to work as designed that is expanding Medicaid for the poor citizens and encouraging health to your citizens to sign up rather than discouraging them the law would have worked much better," Gruber said.

Transcript, via CNN:


CAMEROTA: And Professor Gruber not to bring us a source subject, but of course you remember a couple of years ago when you got into some troubles we're suggesting publicly that one of the advantages of Obamacare was said it was sort of so dense and the lack of transparency would help because, you know, most Americans will not sort of put in the time and energy to have to read through to really see what they were getting.

Do you -- the reason I bring it up is because is that relevant again? This morning I have here what Chris printed out last night of the multiple pages, do you think that voters and all of the people that you think would be disadvantaged, do you really understand what this replacement plan means for them because, you know, we've seen people all the anger, a town hall meeting where they think that something is going to be taken away from them, but who will put in the time to sift through this dense stuff and really get it?

GRUBER: So let's be clear. That's not really what I said, the point I was making in those televised comments was that sometimes when laws are complicated it's hard to follow them and that basically, that can sometimes be necessary to increase the wheels of a political process.

However here is the big difference, when the Affordable Care Act was passed, it was done with unprecedented transparency. There were hundreds of hearings and there were dozens of this congressional budget office course. Now, in the move of incredible hypocrisy, especially to me personally given the attacks that were landed on me, they wanted to talk about jamming through a bill without even having any hearings or any score from migrational budget office.

We have no idea how many more Americans will become uninsured, what it's going to do with the deficit? Is it going to go up, is it going to go down, who is going to win, who is going to lose? There were months of debate about the Affordable Care Act covering all these exact topics. There is nothing on this law and that is outrageously hypocritical.

CUOMO: How big a deal is it that the politics of Obamacare do have a lot of apparent negatives? You do have this test case that they love to point out on the other side from you about spiking premiums in places like Arizona and that you said you could keep your doctor, you said you could keep your plan and it round up not being true. Are you kind of dead in the water because of those situations?

GRUBER: Well, I don't think -- I don't know what you said dead in the water I mean certainly, you have uncertain cases premiums have gone up a lot. Those happen to be the cases where the Republicans have most strongly oppose the underlying working of the law. If they just allow the law to work as designed that is expanding Medicaid for the poor citizens and encouraging health to your citizens to sign up rather than discouraging them the law would have worked much better.

So I don't think your dead in the water or any sense they're simply saying when we took the efforts undermining the law it didn't work. Oh, no surprise. If that actually allow the law to have he conditions to succeed if would've succeeded.

CAMEROTA: Professor Gruber thank you for putting all of this in Layman's terms and helping all of us understand this better this morning, nice to see you.

GRUBER: Nice to see you too.

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