Anne Franke Center vs. Kayleigh McEnany On Anti-Semitism: I'm Tired Of People Using Ivanka Trump


CNN contributor Kayleigh McEnany and Director of the Anne Frank Center Steven Goldstein get into a heated debate about President Donald Trump's first public condemnation of anti-Semitic acts.

At the most heated portion, Goldstein told McEnany he is fed up with people from the right "trotting" out Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner as proof Donald Trump is not anti-Semitic.

"You know what, Kayleigh, I am tired of commentators like you from the right trotting out his daughter, trotting out his son-in-law as talking points against the president's anti-Semitism. They are Jewish but that is not a talking point against anti-Semitism and that is a disgrace," Goldstein said.

Transcript, via CNN:

ERIN BURNETT, CNN 'OUTFRONT' HOST: All right. Brynn, thank you very much. And OutFront now, the executive director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect Steven Goldstein and Trump supporter Kayleigh McEnany. So Steven, after Trump's remarks today, you came out very forcibly, you wrote the president's sudden acknowledgement is a band aid on the cancer of anti-Semitism that has infected his own administration. His statement today is a pathetic asterisk of condescension make no mistake. The anti-Semitism coming out of this administration is the worse we have ever seen. That is a serious charge.

STEVEN GOLDSTEIN, ANNE FRANK CENTER FOR MUTUAL RESPECT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Absolutely. Erin, time and again, this president has had on opportunity to condemn anti-Semitism. He had a chance to include Jews and Holocaust members, he didn't. He had a chance to speak out against the desecration of Jewish cemeteries this weekend, he didn't. He had a chance to speak out against bomb threats against JCCs and he didn't.

Today when he was forced obviously by some staffers because it came several new cycles after, he finally spoke out. Is our country so lower in its expectations of what to expect from a president that we are supposed to say congratulations, Mr. President, you recognize anti-Semitism? That is pathetic.

BURNETT: Kayleigh, what do you say, he was asked about it directly twice in the past week. There were all these incidents. It wasn't until his daughter tweeted yesterday that he then suddenly in a prepared speech that he read said the words.

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: For those wanting to give the president a fair chance, you would have heard him condemn anti-Semitism and I have his exact quote from the first he was asked this question. He said, I want peace in this country, I want to stop crime and long simmering racism. That sounds like a condemnation to me. But some people on the left are using the veil of anti-Semitism, in the charge of anti-Semitism to further their own political causes. It's dangerous. I agree with Alan Dershowitz fully that we should be loosely throwing this term around and I've got to ask you straight on, so you think the president does not like Jews in his (INAUDIBLE) about President of United States.

GOLDSTEIN: You bet. And do you know why?


GOLDSTEIN: And (INAUDIBLE) right, Kayleigh. Do you know?

MCENANY: So they hate his daughter because they hate --

GOLDSTEIN: Do you know what, Kayleigh? You know what, Kayleigh, I am tired of commentators like you from the right trotting out his daughter, trotting out his son-in-law as talking points against the president's anti-Semitism. They are Jewish but that is not a talking point against anti-Semitism and that is a disgrace.


GOLDSTEIN: Have you know -- have you know ethics than to invoke -- and to invoke people's religion as a talking point?

MCENANY: Let's make this a dialogue.

GOLDSTEIN: That itself is anti-Semiting.

BURNETT: Ok. Go ahead, Kayleigh.

MCENANY: Let's make this a dialogue instead of a monologue. Do you think the president dislikes his daughter?


MCENANY: Answer the question. Answer because you said he doesn't like Jews and his daughter is Jew.

GOLDSTEIN: You know what, I have no obligation to answer a (INAUDIBLE) question.

MCENANY: You can't answer the question --

GOLDSTEIN: Because it's a nonsensical question based on nothing. You can't answer the question.


GOLDSTEIN: Why didn't the president condemn anti-Semitism this weekend?


GOLDSTEIN: Why didn't the president condemn anti-Semitism this weekend?

BURNETT: All right. I want to play --


BURNETT: Hold on. Kayleigh read a quite from the press conference that he did with Benjamin Netanyahu. Kayleigh, he was directly asked about anti-Semitism, OK? He didn't answer. He talked generally about racism but I want to play how he -- the question that was asked and how he answered in in full to get your reaction. Here he is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you say to those among the Jewish community in the States and in Israel and maybe around the world who believe and feel that your administration playing xenophobia and may be racist (INAUDIBLE)

TRUMP: Well, I just want to say that we are, you know, very honored by the victory that we had, 306 electoral college votes. We were not supposed to crack 220, you know what, right? There was no way to 221 but then they said there's no way to 270. And there is tremendous enthusiasm out there. I will say that we are going to have peace in this country. We are going to stop crime in this country. We are going to do everything within our power to stop long simmering racism and every other thing that's going on.

BURNETT: So Kayleigh, you know, when he's asked the question, he goes off for 20 seconds about his electoral college victory and then he mentions racism. Later on he does say as for the Jewish people, I have a daughter. Does that do it for you?

MCENANY: Yes. Stopping crime and long simmering racism sounds like a condemnation. And Mr. Goldstein could not answer -- could not answer --

GOLDSTEIN: No. You can't answer the question as to why --

MCENANY: Let me finish. Let me finish. Steven? Let me finish.

GOLDSTEIN: Thank you.

MCENANY: There is a flaw in your logical reasoning. You told me -- the first thing you said is the president dislike Jews, the second thing you said when I asked does he dislike his daughter, you said, I don't have to answer that question.

GOLDSTEIN: You know what, Kayleigh, that's very nice, that's very nice and --


GOLDSTEIN: You are using fake news arguments. Shame on you.

MCENANY: You are using --

GOLDSTEIN: Because you just didn't what was on there. He responded about the electoral college.

BURNETT: Isn't it true though? Putting aside just your immediate discussion here, but it is true that when someone is close to somebody, they can see them differently as they see others. They can see others as another and they could see a person, well, you are this but it doesn't matter. When it comes -- I mean, if you look at what happens about history that's certainly been true with anti-Semitism and many other things.

MCENANY: Of course. Well, he stood next to the Prime Minister of Israel who said I've known this man my whole life, essentially Donald Trump and he is the greatest defender of the Jewish people, I know. And I think it's very sad that we have liberal commentators, Steven particular who is using charges, file charges like anti-Semitism with no evidence behind it.

BURNETT: Kayleigh is right. The Prime Minister of Israel did stay that. He did.

GOLDSTEIN: But listen to what Donald says --


GOLDSTEIN: He talked about the electoral college. We're talking about Donald Trump, we're not talking about BB Netanyahu here. When Donald Trump had an opportunity to speak out strongly against anti- Semitism, he's talking about the electoral college. How ridiculous, Kayleigh.


MCENANY: You're doing a disservice to your own cause because by telling out first charges with anti-Semitism you're neglecting the times where there actually a case that we need to put aside.

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