Luntz: Some Trump Voters Won't Vote Republican Down Ballot To Send Message To Establishment


JOHN DICKERSON, FACE THE NATION: And we turn now to Republican consultant and CBS News contributor Frank Luntz, who is coming to us from Chicago this morning.

Frank, I want to start on this question of voter fraud. Donald Trump has been talking about it. There was also a video released this week from Project Veritas that showed a Democratic strategist talking about busing people. Is that why -- with that kind of video footage, is that why Republicans come out in such big numbers thinking the election is going to be stolen?

FRANK LUNTZ, CBS NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Republicans have felt this ever since Rudy Giuliani’s campaign in 1989 and again in 1993.

There’s always been the concern that, particularly in urban America, people who shouldn’t be voting are or people are voting more than once.

But the problem, John, is, is that it’s a poison. It’s toxic. And this feeling that the electoral system is rigged, the more that that grows, the more impossible it will be after this election to govern.

And I got to tell you, I have been studying this now for 25 years, and I have never seen a higher percentage of Americans who are prepared to completely toss out Washington, toss out Wall Street. They have no faith in the media, no faith in the institutions that run us.

And then how do you bring people together to work together when all of these connections have been frayed?

DICKERSON: Let me take the timeline back a little bit, before we think about after the election. What about right now? You talk about this poison.

When voters hear the election is going to be stolen and then if Donald Trump loses, what’s your sense -- having spent so much time talking to voters, what’s your sense of their reaction?

LUNTZ: Well, I have been to 26 states now. I will probably make it to 30 before the election is over. And it means that there is no coming together.

And I think it’s going to be very challenging for the GOP, because you have got some Trump voters who are unwilling to vote for a Republican for Senate or Congress as a way to send a message to the establishment, and you have got some independents who want to vote Republican for the Senate and the House, but won’t because they’re too connected to Donald Trump.

With only 17 days to go, I have not seen an election like this, where there is so much intraparty battles going on at a time when the Republicans should be focused on the Democrats and prosecuting the case against their leadership.

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