Farage: Modern Opinion Polling Can't Reach New Voters Re-Entering The System

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UK Independence Party Leader and Donald Trump debate coach Nigel Farage joined CNN's Brooke Baldwin to discuss the paralels between the Donald Trump candidacy and his own campaign which prompted Britain's exit from the European Union.

He advises Trump to stay out of the mud and avoid making the race a contest of morality. "I think he has to pivot out, talk about the issues... Just say look, I'm being accused of all sorts of things, it's no surprise given the timing, but let's talk about America's future and place in the world."

"Talk about immigration control, talk about helping small business, do that and you'll win this debate," he said.

He added: "If he goes for and gets a knockout blow tonight on policy, we could be in for an interesting 20 days."

NIGEL FARAGE: Well, there are crossovers, big crossovers. We were both taking on the establishment, we were behind in the opinion polls, we had very little support from mainstream media, so there's big cross over stuff here.

On the day of Brexit, there was an opinion poll that put us ten points behind, and yet we won. I tell you why: Modern polling companies cannot get to non-voters who are re-entering the system. They can't measure them.

Now the question is, is Trump reaching non-voters? I'm told registrations of new voters in many states is quite high, so it could be that Hillary is ahead but maybe by not very much.

BALWDIN: That's the thing and that bears repeating for this audience, because we point so much to polls and in the UK at the time, in the final week of the campaign, the percentage chance that Remain would win didn't fall below the 75% mark. So what do you think went so wrong? You think those voters -- what was so inaccurate about the polls?

FARAGE: No, what went so right... As I say it's because I think whether it's Washington or Brussels or London, what we've seen over the last 25 years is the emergence of a professional political class who are out of touch with mainstream public opinion, and I think Hillary's problem is that she is the epitome of that establishment.

BALDWIN: Isn't it possible the oversimplification of what we're talking about with Brexit versus the U.S. election, there are massive, massive differences, do you still think -- is your thesis that Mr. Trump could still pull off a surprise win based upon your experience in the UK?

FARAGE: I'm not sure the differences are so great. Afterall, Hillary's slogan "Stronger Together" is the same slogan the Remain team used. Hillary wants a global common market. She wants America to be part of a big club where your laws get made somewhere else, where you have no control of your borders and Trump believes the opposite.

I think crossovers are quite big. I would say this. I think the [Billy ] Bush tape did damage the position Trump held. I think he's behind her, but I suspect not as far as these polls are saying today. And I think if he goes for and gets a knockout blow tonight on policy, we could be in for an interesting 20 days.

BALDWIN: Also fascinating with Brexit and reading about it after the fact, a lot of people went in there assuming remain would win and therefore this was their -- forgive me -- proverbial middle finger to the establishment and they went ahead and voted Leave assuming it wouldn't be the win.

FARAGE: In some cases... And maybe also people aren't telling pollsters the truth. There might be people -- I don't want to tell a pollster I'm supporting Trump, they might think badly of me, but in private that's how I feel... I think the race to the bottom where the argument becomes the morality of Trump versus the Clinton family, I don't think he wins in that situation, I think he has to pivot out, talk about the issues... Just say look, I'm being accused of all sorts of things, it's no surprise given the timing but let's talk about America's future and place in the world. Talk about immigration control, talk about helping small business, do that and you'll win this debate.

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