Trump: Chicago Needs 'Stop & Frisk,' It Worked In New York

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In a town hall hosted by Sean Hannity set to air tonight, Donald Trump proposed increasing the use of proactive policing methods such as stop & frisk. "I would do stop and frisk," he said, according to NBC News. "I think you have to. We did it in New York, it worked incredibly well, and you have to be proactive, and you know, you really help people change sort of change their mind automatically. You understand, you have to have, in my opinion. I see what's going on here. I see what's going on in Chicago, I think stop and frisk."

"I was really referring to Chicago with stop and frisk. They asked me about Chicago," Trump said Thursday morning on "Fox and Friends."

"New York was not a Chicago situation, but it was really in trouble," Trump said Thursday on "Fox and Friends." "Stop and frisk worked."

"I suggested stop and frisk, and some people think it's a great idea, and some people probably don't like it, but when you have 3,000 people shot and so many people dying, it's worse than some of the places we're hearing about like Afghanistan," he continued. "I think Chicago needs stop and frisk."

Transcript:

TRUMP: It just seems that there's a lack of spirit between the white and the black. I mean, it's a terrible thing that we're witnessing. You're seeing it, I'm seeing it. And you look at what went on last night in Charlotte, a great place, and you just see it. There's a -- there's somewhat -- and I see it even going out. There's such a lack of -- there's a lack of spirit. There's a lack of something. Something's going on that's bad. And what's going on between police and others is getting worse.

HEGSETH: Mr. Trump, as a -- what would a -- what would the message be of a president Trump to these rioters -- to the anti-police protesters?

TRUMP: Well, it really has to be -- you have to have law and order. At the same time, Pete, you have to have -- you know, you have to have a certain spirit, a certain unity, and there's no unity. You look at the level of hatred, you know, the rocks being thrown and everything happening. It's so sad to see, you know, that this is the United States of America. I mean, it's so sad to see.

But there's just no unity. There has to be a unity message somehow that has to get out and it starts with leadership.

DOOCY: You know what, Mr. Trump? Don't you think there needs to be a dialogue? A dialogue between the police and the community that they help keep the laws in. You know, you can't just roll up when there's trouble. You've got to have a dialogue with the folks every day.

TRUMP: Well, that's true, but if you look at Dallas there was a dialogue. They prided themselves on dialogue and they were constantly talking and meeting and having community groups. And, you know, that was -- that was a pretty rough situation, to put it mildly.

DOOCY: Yes.

TRUMP: A terrible, terrible situation and, you know -- so, that sounds good, it sounds right, but there's something deeper than that.

EARHARDT: I was glad to know that you had a dialogue with hundreds of African-American community leaders. You had that yesterday. It was supposed to air last night and then -- for "HANNITY" -- for the town hall. Hannity didn't end up airing that because he was live on his show for two hours last night so it's going to air tonight. We're all looking forward to seeing that.

TRUMP: Good.

EARHARDT: But what was that dialogue like because it's important for -- you know, it's easy for us to say what we need to do as white individuals -- we're sitting on this couch. But what does the black community want from the white community? How can we work together as a country?

TRUMP: Well, we went to Cleveland and it was really beautiful. Pastor Darrell Scott, who is a great guy, and his church. And we had a tremendous group of people there. It was -- it was amazing. And, that's right, it's going to be, I guess, on "HANNITY" tonight. It was going to be last night --

DOOCY: Last night, yes, sir.

TRUMP: -- but unfortunately this preempted it. But, we had an amazing -- it was an amazing couple of hours that we spent. And I'll tell you what, something can happen and it can happen fast and it can happen that's very good, but right now it's not taking place. There was great love in that room yesterday. And, you know, you see pictures of it. You see it right now on the show.

DOOCY: Yes.

TRUMP: There was tremendous -- there was a tremendous feeling in that room. I mean, something can happen with the right leadership.

DOOCY: I know. I read a report that apparently there in that black church in Cleveland you were asked what you would do about black-on-black crime and you said maybe it's time to bring back stop and frisk.

TRUMP: Right.

DOOCY: And I saw that you sent out a Tweet. "Stop and frisk works. Instead of criticizing @NY_POLICE Chief Ray Kelly, New Yorkers should be thanking him for keeping NY safe." Why do you think stop and frisk would work?

TRUMP: Well, Ray Kelly did a great job and New York was not in a Chicago situation but it was really in trouble. It was in bad shape, crime wise with all of the shootings and everything. And it really -- they -- Rudy Giuliani did a great job as mayor and they really -- they really straightened things out with stop and frisk. And it was used further by the next mayor, Bloomberg. And now they just -- you know, recently -- not so recently, but fairly recently they stopped it.

But stop and frisk worked. We had tremendous shootings -- numbers of shootings. Now, Chicago is out of control. And I was really referring to Chicago with stop and frisk.

DOOCY: OK.

TRUMP: They asked me about Chicago and I was talking about stop and frisk for Chicago. And -- where you had 3,000 shootings so far this year. Three thousand from January first. And obviously you can't let the system go the way it's going.

But I suggested stop and frisk and some people think that's a great idea and some people probably don't like it. But when you have 3,000 people shot and so many people dying, I mean, it's worse than some of the places we're hearing about, like Afghanistan. You know, the war-torn --

DOOCY: Yes.

TRUMP: -- nations. I mean, it's more dangerous, so --

DOOCY: Well, it does sound, Mr. Trump, like Chicago's going to add --

EARHARDT: Yes.

DOOCY: -- I think I read 1,000 new police officers so you've got more cops on the street. But unless you give them the tools, what are they going to do?

TRUMP: Yes. No, I think Chicago needs stop and frisk. Now people can criticize me for that or people can say whatever they want, but they asked me about Chicago and I think stop and frisk with good strong -- you know --

EARHARDT: Yes.

TRUMP: -- good, strong law and order. But you have to do something. It can't continue the way it's going.

EARHARDT: Will you explain what that is to my folks down in South Carolina that don't really deal with stop and frisk? What exactly is it and what are the pros and cons?

TRUMP: Well, there are different levels and you have somebody coming up who's the expert on it. But, basically, they will -- if they see -- you know, they're proactive and if they see a person possibly with a gun or they think may have a gun, they will see the person and they'll look and they'll take the gun away.

DOOCY: Yes.

TRUMP: They'll stop, they'll frisk, and they'll take the gun away. And they won't have anything to shoot with. I mean, how it -- how it's not being used in Chicago is -- to be honest with you, it's quite unbelievable. And, you know, the police -- the local police -- they know who has a gun and who shouldn't be having a gun. They understand that.

DOOCY: Sure, stop and frisk, for the most time is -- most part -- is where you give cops more power to quiz passersby --

TRUMP: Absolutely.

DOOCY: -- if there is reasonable suspicion.

TRUMP: That's right, absolutely. And in New York it took them -- I mean, the numbers were unbelievably changed. I don't mean just a little bit, it was massively changed. And it became a safe city. It went from an unsafe city to a safe city.

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