On the night of the New York Democratic primary, hosts of 'The Young Turks' Ana Kasparian, Jimmy Dore and Cenk Uygur have a passionate debate about how supporters of Bernie Sanders can reach out to Democrats supporting Hillary Clinton, and whether they can respect people who won't listen to evidence.
ANA KASPARIAN: I have a hard time not disliking friends of mine who are supporters of Hillary.
CENK UYGUR: Wow.
ANA KASPARIAN: I know that is not a nice thing to say, but I really don't care. Because my political views represent the core of who I am. Right? And if you support Hillary and think she is a better candidate, at least explain to me why.
Explain to me in detail why you believe her policies are more progressive than Bernie's. Explain to me why her voting record is better than Bernie's. Explain to me why she would represent you as a working class millennial who has so much student loan debt you don't know what to do with your life. Explain to me why she would be a better candidate.
Please do it. They can't do it.
CENK UYGUR: I totally disagree with you... Not because you are wrong on the policy, obviously you are massively right on the policy. [Hillary supporters] just don't know politics.
They just don't know it.
ANA KASPARIA: Disagree. Disagree. I understand if they might be ignorant on some policy issues but I have friends I have sat down with and had very detailed conversations.
Listen, I'm not here for a... hobby. This is what I do for my career. This is what I live for. So it is not like I'm reading some headlines, and I'm like, hey I want to engage in some political discourse.
No. I sit down and explain to them in so many different ways, I have conversations about Hillary Clinton's support of private prisons, Hillary Clinton's support of for-profit colleges. Hillary's support of ridiculous foreign policy that has only perpetuated more war. Detailed policy for why she is not a "progressive" candidate.
And they reject that evidence. So how is it possible for me to respect them after that?
JIMMY DORE: I need to hear this too. Because I feel exactly the same way. It is very hard when people dismiss logic. That now you still have to retain respect for them. When people who you do respect and you considered to be on the right side of issues start to sound more like George Bush supporters than they do a Democrat. It is hard to maintain a relationship with those people. I can maintain a dispassionate relationship, but these are real relationships. When someone lets me down like that, and shows me that at the flip of the switch they can be the exact opposite of what I thought they were, and argue like a Bush supporter instead of a Democrat. It makes it very difficult. And that's why I stay off Facebook.
CENK UYGUR: Ana, when it comes to politics, everybody thinks they know what they are talking about. So the fact that we know the policy better just because of the nature of our job. They don't give us any credit for that. Like a mechanic would get credit for knowing cars better.
ANA KASPARIAN: A doctor would get credit for knowing how to operate on a... heart. How insulting would it be if I were to walk into a doctor performing open-heart surgery and said, you know what I think that artery needs some work. I don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm not saying my friends don't know what they're talking about. I'm saying that if they are unaware of the issues. And I try to explain to them --and provide evidence. We can disagree on political issues... I'm going to disagree with them, but at least that's not a priority for them... but when they say it is a priority for them, and I provide detailed evidence for why Bernie Sanders would be better on that, and they straight up give me the middle finger... Not literally, metaphorically.
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