Trump supporter and political strategist Roger Stone joined Fernand Amandi on WIOD radio in Miami on Wednesday to respond to claims made this week about him and the Trump campaign by Sen. Ted Cruz.
The Texas senator escalated his feud with Stone yesterday, accusing him of being both Donald Trump's "dirty henchman," and also the one "pulling the strings" on the whole Trump campaign. Cruz also accused Stone of intimidating voters, and said his effort to organize on the ground to lobby delegates at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland is a call for "violence."
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"Now you know why Donald Trump calls him Lyin' Ted," Stone replied. "Literally nothing that comes out of the man's mouth is the truth... I've never called for violence -- If Ted keeps saying that I might be forced to sue him. He's a Superlawyer, but let's get him in for a deposition. I've never called for violence."
"Ted Cruz is becoming unhinged," Stone said about charges that his Stop The Steal effort on behalf of the Trump campaign has violent intentions. "The pressure must be getting to [Cruz]. He's seeing me in his sleep."
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Stone also fired back at Cruz for statements he made about Matt Drudge, creator of the Drudge Report.
"The Drudge Report was an is a groundbreaking development for alternative media," Stone said. "Matt Drudge is a friend of mine... He decides what to put on his website. Sometimes he posts things I write. Sometimes he does not. But the idea that the Trump campaign is in control of Matt Drudge is absurd."
"[Drudge] is allowed to own his own media organ and he is allowed to decide what to post," Stone said. "This is called a free press. A little something known as the First Amendment."
"So Ted Cruz, the 'Constitutionalist,' can't take a little criticism from the free press," Stone trolled. "I think he would find that the Drudge Report has, on occasion, published pieces that were pro-Cruz."
FERNAND AMANDI, WIOD -- MIAMI: There is a gravitational pull in the Republican planetary system, and it seems to all be coming back to Roger Stone, the most popular man in the Republican Party today -- somebody that if you listen to Ted Cruz, listen to Megyn Kelly, to Mark Levin, [Stone] may be the most powerful man in Repulbican politics today. Certainly the man behind the scenes --the mastermind of the Trump campaign...
...We have the man himself... The Godfather of the Trump campaign and the Republican political universe today... What do you make of all this? I guess they say every campaign has to have somebody to point the finger at, and they are all pointing at you it looks like.
ROGER STONE: Now you know why Donald Trump calls him "Lyin' Ted Cruz." Literally nothing that comes out of the man's mouth is the truth. His tale about the Colorado chairman, probably aprocryphal. I really think Ted is mentally unbalanced. He's losing it, perhaps because of the pressure. Yesterday, as you probably know, his goons strongarmed 91-year-old Phyllis Schlaffly, a conservative icon, out of control of her own organization and illegally seized her bank account. These are the tactics that we have seen.
I've never called for violence -- If Ted keeps saying that I might be forced to sue him. He's Superlawyer, but let's get him in for a deposition. I've never called for violence. What specifically I have called for is Trump delegates to sign a voluntary loyalty pledge to vote for Trump on every ballot.
Because the party delegations are stacking these ballots with non-Trump voters, meaning they are putting non-Trump supporters in the Trump delegate seats so that they can betray Trump on rules of credentials questions -- which are voted on before the first ballot. That is where the big steal will happen. Some Trump delegates will be disallowed by legal trickery, they have planted the Quislings, these ringers, into their delegations who are allegedly Trump people, and they will be able to hijack the convention.
We're merely asking Trump delegates to sign a voluntary pledge, which they don't have to do. But if you are a Trump delegate and you decline to sign, it will be clear to the media who is involved in hijacking the nomination. And the media can then ask the key question -- don't the votes in the primaries matter?
Don't the votes of the rank and file Republicans --who have overwhelmingly selected Donald Trump -- do they matter?
...When Ted Cruz counts the votes, I thnk the answer is no...
We;ve now seen this prominently in state after state where the primaries have been won by Trump but the delegates have been given to his opponents. We're seeing a pattern of strongarm tactics by the Cruz people. All the time claiming that this group of enthusiastic Trump amateurs and neophytes who are perpetrating outrageous tactics.
There's a piece up today at StoneZone.com about how the nomination can be and will be stolen by Trump's opponents. If his campaign doesn't get a handle on some of these late delegate selections. Remember, almost a third of the delegates remain unselected...
What I am saying is even if he does get to 1,237 there could be a plot in rules or credentials to steal this nomination, the way it was stolen from Robert Taft in 1952 by the Eisenhower people.
Next, Stone defends Matt Drudge, who Ted Cruz said was completely controlled by Trump. "In the past month the Drudge Report has basically become the attack site for the Donald Trump campaign," Cruz said.
AMANDI: This is truly remarkable audio, rarely do you see a candidate for president zero in on an individual, or a consultant the way he has, and frankly I am struck by it.
The great thing about doing a radio show in South Florida, a lot of people underestimate the range South Florida has nationally. Cruz made an allegation about you --a South Florida resident-- he also made an allegation about someone who is another of the most powerful voices in conservative and Republican politics, that is Matt Drudge. Who is also a South Florida resident. Matt, if you are listening you are welcome to come on the show any time... Listen to this clip, Roger, of Ted Cruz talking about you and Drudge.
[Cruz said the Drudge Report has "become the attack site for the Donald Trump campaign" and "by all accounts Roger Stone decides what is on Drudge."]
Roger, so I guess you control not only the Republican party, and all the convention shenanigans, but you are also in control of the Drudge Report, too. Is that true?
ROGER STONE: Of course not. That seems to me like extreme paranoia. Matt Drudge has obviously changed the entire face of how we get news. The Drudge Report was an is a groundbreaking development for alternative media. Matt Drudge is a friend of mine, I know Matt Drudge. He decides what to put on his website. Sometimes he posts things I write. Sometimes he does not. But the idea that the Trump campaign is in control of Matt Drudge is absurd.
AMANDI: Is Drudge anti-Ted Cruz?
ROGER STONE: I have no idea, there's a question for Matt Drudge. He is allowed to own his own media organ and he is allowed to decide what to post. This is called a free press. A little something known as the first amendment. So Ted Cruz, the "Constitutionalist" can't take a little criticism from the free press. I think he would find that the Drudge Report has on occasion published pieces that were pro-Cruz.
Ted Cruz is becoming unhinged, the pressure must be getting to him. He's seeing me in his sleep.