SANDERS: Here's the point, George. In the last three and a half weeks, we have reduced her margin by a third. I think the proper number is about 220 delegates or so that we are now behind. We're moving to New York State. We're moving to Pennsylvania. We're heading out west to California, Oregon, a lot of big states out there.
We believe that we have the momentum. Well -- we believe that the polling is showing that we're closing the gap. Actually, as you may have noticed, of the last three national polls out there, we have defeated Secretary Clinton in two of them.
So there's no question I think the momentum is with us. We have come a really, really long way and I think we can win this.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator, the -- the number you're talking about pledged delegates...
STEPHANOPOULOS: -- you say 220. The AP says 250 her lead.
Is your position now and the position of your campaign that unless Secretary Clinton has enough pledged delegates to guarantee the nomination, just pledged delegates, then you're going to take a floor fight at the convention?
SANDERS: Well, here's what I think. I think at the end of the day, what Democrats all over this country want to make sure is that somebody like a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz does not end up in the White House. And I think what more and more Democrats are seeing is that Bernie Sanders is the stronger candidate.
STEPHANOPOULOS: She's getting more votes.
SANDERS: Well, she's getting more votes. A lot of that came from the South. But if you look at the polling out there, we do a lot better against Trump and the other Republicans in almost every instance -- not every one -- than she does. And the reason is that we both get a lot of Democrats, but I get a lot more Independents than she does.
So I think you're going to see a lot of Democrats saying, look, what's most important is making sure that we defeat Trump or Cruz or whoever. Bernie Sanders is the strongest, uh, candidate.