JOE SCARBOROUGH, MSNBC HOST: And so what was Donald's reaction when he got the press release yesterday? Did he know from the moment that he got the goading press release -- it was really more like trolling of Trump -- that he was not going to do the event?
LEWANDOWSKI: Well, I think it was very clear. It's very hard to appear with someone, a network which is going to be as biased as they have been against him. As soon as they put that press release out, you know, it was clearly a statement which, you know, they did it just to get his attention. This is something that Fox wanted to do to increase their ratings as it related to more people watching this debate.
And, you know, it just doesn't make sense. What we know is that Megyn Kelly is totally obsessed with Mr. Trump. She's done show after show about why the media shouldn't be having him on television. Donald Trump is the best debater on the debate stage. We know this. He's a clear winner. He has been by every debate poll that's taken place. He's not afraid to debate, and I want to be clear about this. He's done more television, more radio, than all of the other candidates combined. And so he's not afraid to answer questions. He's on your show all the time. He was on yesterday.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Any chance that he will do this debate in any way, shape or form. Any way to turn this around?
COREY LEWANDOWSKI: I just don’t think so. I mean what you have with Mr. Trump, that you have a clear leader. A person who he says at best is not going to be toyed with. A person who understands when a bad deal is in front of him and is ready to walk away from a bad deal. Something that this country should be able to do. And I just don’t see in any way where Fox is going to have a successful debate now, when you got the clear GOP frontrunner who has decided to walk away from this debate because he can’t be treated fairly at the debate stage. And even a network that wants to makes news not about what they’re going to ask the candidates about the policy issues without personal attacks so, you know, maybe Fox was going to have a 20 or 25-million person debate. But without Mr. Trump’s participation, I think they may have a 1 or 2-million person debate...
[Cruz] is not the only one [to challenge Trump to a one-on-one debate]. the other candidiates are saying, look, why would we participate in the Fox debate as well, I think once again you have the candidates reacting to the only true leader in this race.