Carly Fiorina: If You Came Here Illegally, You Don't Get A Path To Citizenship


2016 Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina joins Morning Joe to discuss Hillary Clinton's campaign kickoff, Jeb Bush, Dodd Frank and Wall Street regulation, and immigration policy.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: What's your view on immigration?

CARLY FIORINA: Well, I think we have to do some really basic things first. People have lost faith in government. That's why 82 percent of the American people now think we have a professional political class that cares more about its power, privilege, and position than doing the people's work. And let's start with the fact that we've never secured the border -- under either Republicans or Democrats. This isn't rocket science.

SCARBOROUGH: So start by securing the border.

FIORINA: Yes. We absolutely have to do that.

SCARBOROUGH: Is there a pathway to citizenship?

FIORINA: Well, in my view, we also have to fix the illegal immigration system, which has been broken for about 25 years now. No one's -- everyone talks about comprehensive solutions but nobody starts with the basics. My own view is, if you have come here illegally and stayed here illegally, that you don't get a path to citizenship. Perhaps legal status --

SCARBOROUGH: What about legalized status?

FIORINA: Well, I think legal status is a possibility, for sure. I think their children maybe can become citizens. But my own view is it isn't fair to say to people who have played by the rules -- and it takes a long time to play about it rules -- that, you know, it just doesn't matter.

SCARBOROUGH: Yes. That - that --

BRZEZINSKI: So the last time you were on, I challenged you and your credentials as they pertain to being able to attack Hillary Clinton and we talked about that. I'm going to ask it a different way now. What do you draw from your experience and credentials that you think would make you an effective president?

FIORINA: Well, I understand the economy. I understand how the world works and who's in it. I know more world leaders on the stage today than anyone running, with the possible exception of Hillary Clinton. Although I didn't do photo ops with them; I had private meetings with them.

I understand bureaucracies and what it takes to move them. Because our government is one giant, bloated, unaccountable, corrupt, inept bureaucracy now. I understand technology. I understand that guarding a server with Secret Service agents doesn't keep it from being hacked, for example. And I understand executive leadership, which is making a tough call in a tough time for which you're prepared to be held accountable.

I think those things I just named are what's required to do the job of President of the United States now.

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