2016 Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina joins Morning Joe to discuss Hillary Clinton's campaign kickoff, Jeb Bush, Dodd Frank and Wall Street regulation, and immigration policy.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: What's your view on immigration?
CARLY FIORINA: Well, I think we have to do some really basic things first. People have lost faith in government. That's why 82 percent of the American people now think we have a professional political class that cares more about its power, privilege, and position than doing the people's work. And let's start with the fact that we've never secured the border -- under either Republicans or Democrats. This isn't rocket science.
SCARBOROUGH: So start by securing the border.
FIORINA: Yes. We absolutely have to do that.
SCARBOROUGH: Is there a pathway to citizenship?
FIORINA: Well, in my view, we also have to fix the illegal immigration system, which has been broken for about 25 years now. No one's -- everyone talks about comprehensive solutions but nobody starts with the basics. My own view is, if you have come here illegally and stayed here illegally, that you don't get a path to citizenship. Perhaps legal status --
SCARBOROUGH: What about legalized status?
FIORINA: Well, I think legal status is a possibility, for sure. I think their children maybe can become citizens. But my own view is it isn't fair to say to people who have played by the rules -- and it takes a long time to play about it rules -- that, you know, it just doesn't matter.
SCARBOROUGH: Yes. That - that --
BRZEZINSKI: So the last time you were on, I challenged you and your credentials as they pertain to being able to attack Hillary Clinton and we talked about that. I'm going to ask it a different way now. What do you draw from your experience and credentials that you think would make you an effective president?
FIORINA: Well, I understand the economy. I understand how the world works and who's in it. I know more world leaders on the stage today than anyone running, with the possible exception of Hillary Clinton. Although I didn't do photo ops with them; I had private meetings with them.
I understand bureaucracies and what it takes to move them. Because our government is one giant, bloated, unaccountable, corrupt, inept bureaucracy now. I understand technology. I understand that guarding a server with Secret Service agents doesn't keep it from being hacked, for example. And I understand executive leadership, which is making a tough call in a tough time for which you're prepared to be held accountable.
I think those things I just named are what's required to do the job of President of the United States now.