NYPD Deputy Commissioner John Miller: I've Never Heard Of "Rough Rides"


John Miller is the Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence & Counter-terrorism of the NYPD. Miller is also a former ABC news reporter, best known for his May 1998 interview with Osama bin Laden.

A "rough ride" is the dangerous ride, often handcuffed and without a seatbelt, in the back of a police van. Baltimore police say injuries accidentally inflicted in the back of the van caused the death of Freddie Gray, who was arrested for possession of a switch blade and died with a severed spine.

JOHN MILLER: I've been around policing, either as a journalist or working in Departments, for a long time. And I have never heard of that...

I can't make it up, I've never heard of it. On the other hand, I know about police brutality, I know about rough encounters during arrest, I know about, we all know the stories about what can happen back in the cell block. Does that mean it didn't happen? No. That will be investigated, but I can't speak to it as a common practice.

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