MARTHA MACCALLUM, "KELLY FILE" GUEST HOST: Every time we see this exchange it seems like the answer is so tortured. Like it's so difficult to say what everybody around the world seems to feel so clearly it is. And what the leaders have said in Canada and Australia and Paris where they have felt it potently and personally, they've all said quite clearly the battle is against Islamic extremism. Why is that so hard to say?
MARIE HARF, STATE DEPARTMENT: Well, it's not hard to say, but it's not the only kind of extremism we face. I would recommend folks looking at this administration's counter-terrorism record. I would remind people that more terrorists who claim to do acts of violence in the name of Islam have been taken off the battlefield in this administration than other any previous one because of our counterterrorism operations and our efforts that we put in place. But that's not the only way you counter this kind of extremism. Much of it Islamic, you're absolutely right. But some of it not. So we're going to focus on all the different kinds of extremism with a heavy focus on people who do this in the name of Islam, we would say falsely in the name of Islam, but there are other forms of extremism --
MACCALLUM: Tell me, what other forms of extremism are particularly troubling and compelling to you right now?
HARF: Well, look, there are people out there who want to kill other people in the name of a variety of causes. Of course, Martha, we are most focused on people doing this in the name of Islam. And we've talked about with ISIL, part of our strategy to counter this extremism is to have other moderate Muslim voices stand up and say they don't represent our religion. They speak for their religion more than we do certainly and we need those voices to stand up. In addition to all the other efforts we're undertaking.
MACCALLUM: I just think a lot of other countries probably listen to the way we're talking about this and scratch their heads and wonder why it's so hard to spit it out in a lot of these conversations.