MSNBC's Wagner to Axelrod: Obama's Immigration Executive Action Will End 2008 Promise Of Bipartisanship


ALEX WAGNER, MSNBC: David let me start with you. In many ways, as hopeful as this is for the five million men and women who will not face deportation likely in the next coming months, this in some ways does mark the end of President Obama's 2008 promise of bipartisanship and a Washington that could function above politics, or partisan politics. Is that in someway, as someone who sort of shepherded us through that moment, how does this moment make you feel in terms of that legacy?

DAVID AXELROD, OBAMA CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST AND ADVISOR : Well, look, that was the -- that was the promise, the hope of that campaign and the night of the inauguration, 15 leaders of the House of Representatives met to talk about how they could thwart every aspect of the president's agenda, including the relief measures that were necessary to deal with the economic catastrophe that had been visited upon the country. So, I don't know that this is news that there are big differences in Washington.

I sat in a room, Alex, five years ago or more with members of Congress, Republican and Democrat, who had supported immigration reform in the past where the president urged them to lock arms and move forward together and they were afraid to do that. They were afraid to do that because of the base of their party would object and we're still in the same place. They passed a bipartisan bill, 68 votes, that is the desire that the American people have, Republicans and Democrats working together, and the Speaker of the House wouldn't bring it up on the floor of the House because he feared it would pass and that there would be a bipartisan vote for that bill. So I think the president is doing what he think he has do in the face of incontrovertible evidence that this Congress isn't going to move forward on this issue.

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