Chuck Todd: Republicans Were Right That Once Obamacare Got Implemented, It Would Never Be Repealed


CHRIS HAYES: I think the politics of Obamacare in this race are fascinating. This is a place in which it's a red state that implemented Obamacare, it's doing quite well as a sort of substantive matter. And you see Mitch McConnell is kind of caught between a rock and a hard place but it doesn't seem to be hurting him politically.

CHUCK TODD: Well, no because part of the reason, and we're seeing this in all of those Senate battlegrounds is as the idea of a persuadable voter disappears and this becomes a total basic engagement, the Republican base still wants to hear that rhetoric. "Gotta repeal that Obamacare."

HAYES: Root and branch.

TODD: Root and branch. Even though a majority, and we've shown it in our poll, we've got more numbers coming out tomorrow, but I can preview this: it is growing, the anti-repeal movement. It is growing. It is no, it is not -- despite all of this advertising -- it is a shrinking minority in the country.

HAYES: A shrinking minority of voters would want to --

TODD: Fully repeal.

HAYES: Right.

TODD: Who believe no, no, no, make some changes but you can't repeal it. This is over. And Republican leaders know it. Mitch McConnell knows it. And that's why he had that bizarre word salad as you called that.

HAYES: Part of me also wonders if what's happening is a fairly sophisticated calculation by people who now understand that it isn't going to be repealed or it's very unlikely that they can get away with repealing it, and so the stakes for say those 500,000 people are muted precisely because of the kind of gridlocked that people have now kind of bake into their expectations.

TODD: Well, yes, I mean I hear you on that. I guess I go back to the raw. I just think there is no way, and this is why repeal is like a bizarre and bogus promise by anybody, by any candidate on there because there are too many people. You're going to take healthcare away from [people]. Now, this is what Republicans were fearing. "If you let it get implemented, you'll never take it away."

HAYES: The Bill Kristol memo.

TODD: By the way, they were right about that.

HAYES: Right.

TODD: You're not going to be able to take away, particularly in a state like Kentucky that has a very poor population that is getting good healthcare for the first time.

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