Rand Paul vs. MSNBC Host: I Learned My Lesson Trying to Have A Philosophical Discussion on Your Network


ARI MELBER, MSNBC HOST: As we're talking about restoring civil rights here, you know you stirred up a lot of controversy with the 2010 comments

SEN. RAND PAUL: Me? Controversy?

MELBER: Part of what you said at the time, Senator, is that you had concerns about the rules for private business while you support most of the Civil Rights Act. Why did you evolve on rules for private business?

PAUL: What I would say to be fair to myself because I like to be fair to myself, is that I've always been in favor of the Civil Rights Act. So people need to get over themselves writing all this stuff that I've changed my mind on the Civil Rights Act. Have I ever had a philosophical discussion about all aspects of it? Yeah, and I learned my lesson to come on MSNBC and have a philosophical discussion. The liberals will come out of the woodwork and they will go crazy and say you're against the Civil Rights Act and you're some terrible racist. And I take great objection to that because in Congress, I think there is nobody else trying harder to get people back their voting rights, to get people back and make the criminal justice system fair. I take great offense to people who want to portray me as something that I'm not.

MELBER: But when you said, well, here are the rules for private businesses are concerning, why not explain that you have evolved that?

PAUL: Well because I never was opposed to the Civil Rights Act and I have been attacked by half a dozen people on your network trying to say I'm opposed to the Civil Rights Act and somehow now I've changed. So I'm not willing to engage with people who are misrepresenting my viewpoint because I have never been against the Civil Rights Act, I have never said I was against it. So, for people to say that, really they don't want to have an honest discussion about it.

MELBERT: Right. No, I think the honest discussion you said that some title, Title II and Title VII that relate --

PAUL: The honest discussion of it would be that I never was opposed to Civil Rights Act and when your network does 24-hour news telling the truth, then maybe we can get somewhere with the discussion.

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