Rep. Issa on Missing IRS Emails: "We Will Probably Never Know"


CANDY CROWLEY, CNN: Let's first go to the e-mails, two years' worth. You have been given some - over 20,000 of them have been retrieved through other ways, the people she sent them to, et cetera. Did Lois Lerner crash her own computer?

REP. DARRELL ISSA: Well, we will probably never know that. The drive is physically gone.

What we do know from the discovery we have gotten, from e-mails that we have gotten from multiple sources is, she broke some regulations. She broke some laws. She sent - trying to get prosecution apparently, she sent 1.1 million tax records over to the Department of Justice, including inappropriate or actually illegal 6103 disclosures on behalf of conservative groups.

CROWLEY: But, in the end, I thought you had said, listen, she clearly did this so that we couldn't have these records. So you can see that this could have been a computer crash and it lost her stuff?

ISSA: We never - I don't think anyone has - on my committee has ever said she deliberately crashed her computer.

Obviously, she had a - 30 years of experience. She knew under the Federal Records Act that she had an obligation for these documents to be preserved, these e-mails. And to not have print to paper, which is the policy that she had to know, is pretty hard to believe that there aren't paper copies.

So do I believe that she printed to paper? Yes. She's an attorney of long standing. And it's kind of hard to believe that you wouldn't cover with your own paper copies.

CROWLEY: So you do believe that she printed the paper and has those documents? I think her attorney has already said she didn't.

ISSA: Well, her attorney has said things and been not correct, or disingenuous, or outright lied a number of times, and it's been shown by e-mails.

Look, an attorney trying to get his client off the hook after flubbing the taking of the Fifth certainly will say and do a lot of things, but they're not held accountable. Ultimately, what we know is, the archivist said that the IRS failed to do what they were supposed to do in informing, failed to properly keep documents.

And that has very little to do with the fundamental problem, which is Lois Lerner's unit headed by Lois Lerner and directed by Lois Lerner unfairly targeted and abused conservative groups for what they believed.

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